Re: Re: Shocks & skid plates for a GenII

From: Dave (ded74@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Aug 08 2001 - 05:38:34 EDT


Thanks again Kyle, lots of great info! I'll try to put it all to good use
:)

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Dave
Denver, CO
'93 Sport 4x4 V-6

""Kyle Kozubal"" <grndak4x4@home.com> wrote in message news:006601c12090$8764e380$deee0818@hmmnd1.in.home.com... > >I've seen people talking about the Edelbrock IAS, > >has anyone used these on a 4x4? How are they off road? > >Also, does anyone know where I can get skid plates > > for a GenII? Thanks guys. > > Dealer has all the skid plates for your truck. They are pretty solid too, > nice and thick gauge steel. > Prices will vary: > 87-96 Front Axle Skid Plate; PN#4412114: $118 > 87-93 Transfer Case Skid Plate; PN#4412171: $52 > 94-96 Transfer Case Skid Plate; PN#52058070: $37 > 87-96 Fuel Tank Skid Plate; PN#4279781: $225 > > You 'could' also try swapping out your V6 torsion bars for some V8 torsion > bars, which should help with not bottoming out, and the V8 tbars would also > hold a mild 'crank-up lift'. The V8 bars have a higher spring rate than the > V6 bars and are physically thicker. They are ALL interchangable with each > other. There are also two different weight ratings for each bar, either in > the 1450lb rating or in a 2000lb rating.They cost about $125ish a piece. I > would also check with Sway-A-Way, because last I checked they were > attempting to make tbars for GenII Dakotas. Anyways, here are the dealer > torsion bar listings: > 1450lbs > 87-96 V6: #4322510(Right), #4322511(Left) > 91-96 V8: #4322512(Right), #4322513(Left) > > 2000lbs > 87-96 V6: #4322516(Right), #4322517(Left) > 91-96 V8: #4322518(Right), #4322519(Left) > > Now onto shocks: > In my quest for shocks, I of course researched and compared everything > out there which I would like to put on my Dakota. I was only considering > shocks with urethane bushings also and Rancho's I wont even consider. > I know this may be long, but I have found it interesting to compar > brands/stats. > > *TrailMaster SSV: Urethane Bushings, Bust Boots Included, 2 3/8" Diameter > Cylinders, Nitrogen Gas, 14MM Carbon Steel Piston Rod, Speed Smart Valve > adjusts to surfaces automatically > *TrailMaster Invader SS: 35MM Piston Head, 2 3/8" Diameter Cylinders > Urethane Bushings, "Multi-Viscosity Hydraulic Fluid", 14MM Piston Rod, Boots > not Included, Twin Tube Construction, Multistage Valving > *TrailMaster Invader N7: 200PSI Nitrogen Gas, Twin Tube Design, Urethane > Bushings, Dust Boot not Included, 10 Stage Valving > *Warn AT/All Terrain: Closed Cell Foam, Urethane Bushings, Includes Dust > Boots, 1 3/8" Diameter Piston, 5/8" Chrome Piston Rod, 10 Stage Valving > *Dick Cepek Race Series: Nitrogen Gas Charged, 5/8" Chrome Piston Rod, 2 > 3/8" Expanded Reserve Tube, 1 3/8" Diameter Bore, Boots not included > *SuperLift Superide: Urethane Bushings, 10 Stage Valving, Multi-Viscosity > Fluid, Dust Boot Included, No other tech. info available > *ProComp ES3000: 10 Stage Valving, 1 3/8" Diameter Piston, 5/8" Chrome > Piston Rod, Twin Tube Cellular Gas, Not sure about the type of bushings > offered, Dust Boots Are Not Included > *ProComp ES9000: 10 Stage Valving, 1 3/8" Diameter Piston, 5/8" Chrome > Piston Rod, Twin Tube Nitrogen Gas, Expanded Fluid Reservoir, Not sure about > the type of bushings offered, Dust Boots Are Not Included > *Bilstein: High Pressure(360PSI) Nitrogen Gas, This Is All I Can Find on > Them! No Specs to Use to Compare With the Other Brands Unfortunately. Any > provide me with better stats with them to better compare? > > Extended Length for the Fronts with all TM's for my app. are: 14.45" > Extended Length for the Rears with all TM's for my app. are: 25.20" > Collapsed Length for the Fronts with all TM's for my app. are: 9.34" > Collapsed Length for the Rears with all TM's for my app. are: 15.17" > Total Front TrailMaster Shock Travel: 5.11" > Total Rear TrailMaster Shock Travel: 10.03" > > Extended Length for the Fronts with the Warn's for my app. are: 14.44" > Extended Length for the Rears with the Warn's for my app. are: 24.62" > Collapsed Length for the Fronts with the Warn's for my app. are: 9.24" > Collapsed Length for the Rears with the Warn's for my app. are: 14.81" > Total Front Warn Shock Travel: 5.2" > Total Rear Warn Shock Travel: 9.81" > > Extended Length for the Fronts with the DC's for my app. are: 14.44" > Extended Length for the Rears with the DC's for my app. are: 24.62" > Collapsed Length for the Fronts with the DC's for my app. are: 9.24" > Collapsed Length for the Rears with the DC's for my app. are: 14.81" > ****Warn and Dick Cepek shocks are obviously the same here(I double checked > even to make sure)!!!! > Total Front Dick Cepek Shock Travel: 5.2" > Total Rear Dick Cepek Shock Travel: 9.81" > > Extended Length for the Fronts with the S.L.'s for my app. are: 13.33" > Extended Length for the Rears with the S.L.'s for my app. are: 25.07" > Collapsed Length for the Fronts with the S.L.'s for my app. are: 8.75" > Collapsed Length for the Rears with the S.L.'s for my app. are: 15.07" > Total Front SuperLift Shock Travel: 4.58" > Total Rear SuperLift Shock Travel: 10" > > Extended Length for the Fronts with the PC3000's for my app. are: 14.71" > Extended Length for the Rears with the PC3000's for my app. are: 24.51" > Collapsed Length for the Fronts with the PC3000's for my app. are: 9.56" > Collapsed Length for the Rears with the PC3000's for my app. are: 14.82" > ****Shock Specs for the ProComp9000 Series are exactly the same!!! > Total Front ProComp Shock Travel: 5.15" > Total Rear ProComp Shock Travel: 9.69" > > As far as travel is concerned(and I am very sure my Dak's stock suspension > greatly limits these numbers), it looks to me that the TrailMaster SSV's are > pretty > impressive(overall also). Anyone still awake???? I have used Rancho RS5000 > shocks and would NOT recommend them at all. They were shot after one year > of use. I am currently using Bilstein shocks, which I do like, but not sure > if I > would buy them again. A lot of people have had pretty good experience with > ProComp shocks, so I would suggest trying those out. I would personally stay > away from the IAS shocks. Just be sure the shock you buy have urethane > bushings at both ends. Hope this helps! > Kyle > 93 Dakota 4x4 V6 >



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