Re: Shocks & skid plates for a GenII

From: Kyle Kozubal (grndak4x4@home.com)
Date: Thu Aug 09 2001 - 01:02:45 EDT


>I've seen people talking about the Edelbrock IAS,
>has anyone used these on a 4x4? How are they off road?
>Also, does anyone know where I can get skid plates
> for a GenII? Thanks guys.

Dealer has all the skid plates for your truck. They are pretty solid too,
nice and thick gauge steel.
Prices will vary:
87-96 Front Axle Skid Plate; PN#4412114: $118
87-93 Transfer Case Skid Plate; PN#4412171: $52
94-96 Transfer Case Skid Plate; PN#52058070: $37
87-96 Fuel Tank Skid Plate; PN#4279781: $225

You 'could' also try swapping out your V6 torsion bars for some V8 torsion
bars, which should help with not bottoming out, and the V8 tbars would also
hold a mild 'crank-up lift'. The V8 bars have a higher spring rate than the
V6 bars and are physically thicker. They are ALL interchangable with each
other. There are also two different weight ratings for each bar, either in
the 1450lb rating or in a 2000lb rating.They cost about $125ish a piece. I
would also check with Sway-A-Way, because last I checked they were
attempting to make tbars for GenII Dakotas. Anyways, here are the dealer
torsion bar listings:
1450lbs
87-96 V6: #4322510(Right), #4322511(Left)
91-96 V8: #4322512(Right), #4322513(Left)

2000lbs
87-96 V6: #4322516(Right), #4322517(Left)
91-96 V8: #4322518(Right), #4322519(Left)

Now onto shocks:
In my quest for shocks, I of course researched and compared everything
out there which I would like to put on my Dakota. I was only considering
shocks with urethane bushings also and Rancho's I wont even consider.
I know this may be long, but I have found it interesting to compar
brands/stats.

*TrailMaster SSV: Urethane Bushings, Bust Boots Included, 2 3/8" Diameter
Cylinders, Nitrogen Gas, 14MM Carbon Steel Piston Rod, Speed Smart Valve
adjusts to surfaces automatically
*TrailMaster Invader SS: 35MM Piston Head, 2 3/8" Diameter Cylinders
Urethane Bushings, "Multi-Viscosity Hydraulic Fluid", 14MM Piston Rod, Boots
not Included, Twin Tube Construction, Multistage Valving
*TrailMaster Invader N7: 200PSI Nitrogen Gas, Twin Tube Design, Urethane
Bushings, Dust Boot not Included, 10 Stage Valving
*Warn AT/All Terrain: Closed Cell Foam, Urethane Bushings, Includes Dust
Boots, 1 3/8" Diameter Piston, 5/8" Chrome Piston Rod, 10 Stage Valving
*Dick Cepek Race Series: Nitrogen Gas Charged, 5/8" Chrome Piston Rod, 2
3/8" Expanded Reserve Tube, 1 3/8" Diameter Bore, Boots not included
*SuperLift Superide: Urethane Bushings, 10 Stage Valving, Multi-Viscosity
Fluid, Dust Boot Included, No other tech. info available
*ProComp ES3000: 10 Stage Valving, 1 3/8" Diameter Piston, 5/8" Chrome
Piston Rod, Twin Tube Cellular Gas, Not sure about the type of bushings
offered, Dust Boots Are Not Included
*ProComp ES9000: 10 Stage Valving, 1 3/8" Diameter Piston, 5/8" Chrome
Piston Rod, Twin Tube Nitrogen Gas, Expanded Fluid Reservoir, Not sure about
the type of bushings offered, Dust Boots Are Not Included
*Bilstein: High Pressure(360PSI) Nitrogen Gas, This Is All I Can Find on
Them! No Specs to Use to Compare With the Other Brands Unfortunately. Any
provide me with better stats with them to better compare?

Extended Length for the Fronts with all TM's for my app. are: 14.45"
Extended Length for the Rears with all TM's for my app. are: 25.20"
Collapsed Length for the Fronts with all TM's for my app. are: 9.34"
Collapsed Length for the Rears with all TM's for my app. are: 15.17"
Total Front TrailMaster Shock Travel: 5.11"
Total Rear TrailMaster Shock Travel: 10.03"

Extended Length for the Fronts with the Warn's for my app. are: 14.44"
Extended Length for the Rears with the Warn's for my app. are: 24.62"
Collapsed Length for the Fronts with the Warn's for my app. are: 9.24"
Collapsed Length for the Rears with the Warn's for my app. are: 14.81"
Total Front Warn Shock Travel: 5.2"
Total Rear Warn Shock Travel: 9.81"

Extended Length for the Fronts with the DC's for my app. are: 14.44"
Extended Length for the Rears with the DC's for my app. are: 24.62"
Collapsed Length for the Fronts with the DC's for my app. are: 9.24"
Collapsed Length for the Rears with the DC's for my app. are: 14.81"
****Warn and Dick Cepek shocks are obviously the same here(I double checked
even to make sure)!!!!
Total Front Dick Cepek Shock Travel: 5.2"
Total Rear Dick Cepek Shock Travel: 9.81"

Extended Length for the Fronts with the S.L.'s for my app. are: 13.33"
Extended Length for the Rears with the S.L.'s for my app. are: 25.07"
Collapsed Length for the Fronts with the S.L.'s for my app. are: 8.75"
Collapsed Length for the Rears with the S.L.'s for my app. are: 15.07"
Total Front SuperLift Shock Travel: 4.58"
Total Rear SuperLift Shock Travel: 10"

Extended Length for the Fronts with the PC3000's for my app. are: 14.71"
Extended Length for the Rears with the PC3000's for my app. are: 24.51"
Collapsed Length for the Fronts with the PC3000's for my app. are: 9.56"
Collapsed Length for the Rears with the PC3000's for my app. are: 14.82"
****Shock Specs for the ProComp9000 Series are exactly the same!!!
Total Front ProComp Shock Travel: 5.15"
Total Rear ProComp Shock Travel: 9.69"

As far as travel is concerned(and I am very sure my Dak's stock suspension
greatly limits these numbers), it looks to me that the TrailMaster SSV's are
pretty
impressive(overall also). Anyone still awake???? I have used Rancho RS5000
shocks and would NOT recommend them at all. They were shot after one year
of use. I am currently using Bilstein shocks, which I do like, but not sure
if I
would buy them again. A lot of people have had pretty good experience with
ProComp shocks, so I would suggest trying those out. I would personally stay
away from the IAS shocks. Just be sure the shock you buy have urethane
bushings at both ends. Hope this helps!
Kyle
93 Dakota 4x4 V6



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