Re: 4.7 F&B TB stuff (from Bruce Bridges)

From: Paul Macey (pmacey@ans.net)
Date: Thu Sep 13 2001 - 14:39:33 EDT


Hi Bruce, thanks for the reply!

I put another 15 miles on the new TB with stock z-tube today (now have
about 25 miles all together)

No more idle problems, couldn't get it to stick at 1000 RPM. PCM must be
re-learning after resetting it.

The squealing noise does seem to be disapating also, still faint though.
 
I have the following mods on my truck:

Stock 3 inch Z-tube with 9 inch Pro-flow filter (rubber flap removed)
Dual 2 1/2 inch Flowmaster Cat-back exhaust
Jet Chip II
IAT Adjuster (still playing around with this being off/on with the chip)
Robert Shaw 180 T-stat
Autolite 3923s
Royal Purple 5w-30 syntehtic oil (just added with the new TB/IAT adjustor)

I'm actually thinking of upgrading to the 4 inch custom Z-tube.
Bernd is getting a price check on just the tube with the needed adaptors
for my 9 inch Pro-Flow filter end and mating to the new 70mm TB
(I'am worried with clearance issues with the A/C lines and hood, with the
4 inch custom Z-tube, perhaps having just one adapator my help with the
angle of the tube)

I will continue to put more miles on and onbserve the idle, squealing, and
potential performance gains. (I did go out and re-align the Z-tube/filter,
plenty of clearance all around now)

Thanks again.

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Bruce Bridges wrote:

> Paul and Jason,
> Ive been super busy and havnt had a chance to check the threads out until
> today. Regarding your idle issues, Make sure that the double coupling or
> adaptor you used to hook up the 3" Z tube to the 4"TB isnt blocking the idle
> air inlet hole on the perimeter of the TB. If it is, pull the coupling back
> from the hole. Air rushes in there and the squealing may be due to it
> squeezing past the silicone coupling. Also, If the idle doesnt calm down
> after computer learing (and adjusting the coupling away from the hole), try
> adjusting the plate adjustment screw back 1/4 turn (so the plates close a
> bit more). Dont adjust it so much that the plate hits the TB bore though!
> Feel free to caontact me directly regarding any issues with the 4.7 TB! I
> do reccomend going with the bigger inlet for maximum gains. (even a 4" dryer
> hose will improve the inlet over a 3" tube) If your truck is basically
> stock, your gains will be minimal at first. As you mod the truck the TB
> will augment the additional mods and produce more power and torque than the
> stock unit. Tests weve run on trucks with flashed PCMs and catback exhausts
> showed torque increases (with the 70mm TB) over a fully ported stock 68mm
> TB.
> Bruce K Bridges
> F&B Performance Enineered Products
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jayson Woodruff <woodrufj@yahoo.com>
> To: <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: DML: 4.7 70mm TB and IAT Adjustor Installed!
>
>
> >
> > Check within.
> >
> > Paul Macey wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ran the truck with:
> > >
> > > 1) CHIP in/IAT off---seemed slightly sluggish compared to runs prior to
> > > installs, not really sure if I felt any difference with the 70mm TB -vs-
> > > stock 68mm TB
> >
> > Probably is more sluggish off the line with an unlearnd PCM. One your PCM
> > gets up to date almost all the low end will come back. Try taking it to
> the
> > high end (5000+RPMs) you should feel a gain immediatly after install.
> >
> > >
> > > Will have to get more experience and miles for the PCM to 're-learn' and
> > > adjust (do you folks agree on this, especially the part about the PCM
> > > re-learning?
> >
> > Yes agree on PCM, The butt dyno will feel more HP and you milage would go
> up
> > if you could keep your foot out of it.
> >
> > >
> > > Ok, now the funky stuff...had to use the original coupler from the stock
> > > z-tube to fit in the 4 inch end of the new coupler that came with the TB
> > > in order to get (IMHO) a snug, airtight mating of the z-tube to the TB
> > >
> > > I can't get the z-tube to stop rubbing on the A/C lines (it wasn't with
> > > the 68mm TB and using just one coupler)
> >
> > I recomend the new intense intake (4")
> >
> > >
> > > The truck twice came to idle at 1k and I couldn't get it to spool down
> > >
> > > Squealing and/or squeaking nosies are heard at times...
> > >
> >
> > PCM learning will take care of most the ideling and squeaking. But it
> still
> > freaks every once in a while. I think the squeaking is air going the idle
> > control bypass hole thing.
> >
> > Jay W
> >
> >
>
>



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