I agree with pretty much everything detailed below.
Do keep in mind the men of flight 93 already knew what the other 3 planes
did and vowed to 'go down with the ship' (I'm just waiting to hear what
the flight recorder says)
Re: guns:
I own a gun, you can own a gun, and any red blooded American should be
allowed to own a gun, but if you use it in a crime, then you should get
the death penalty! (sort of misquoting TED)
Re: the terrorists:
We'll be the judge, we'll be the jury, we have cunning old fury!
We'll try the whole case and condemn you to death, have no worry!
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Marty Galyean wrote:
> I don't see a point here other than the same tired one that the State
> should be everybodies Daddy, one nation under disneyland, yada, yada,
> yada. Ever heard the term 'boundary problems'? If you want to abdicate
> liberty for yourself that is your prerogative, but this country was
> explicitly designed to keep you from abdicating others' liberties for
> them.
>
> The men on flight 93 are role models to be followed, and if they, as
> law-abiding citizens, had had knives, not only would they have succeeded
> in foiling the terrorists as they did, but they may still be alive today
> and with their loved ones. Its hard to say. But one thing is certain,
> if you desire to control peoples' lives for what they *might* do, you
> are beyond reasonable discussion.
>
> This country just got a wake up call. Are we an open society based on
> liberty and trust or not? More active liberty and less passive
> dependency is what we need. The world has never been, nor ever will be,
> a safe place, and I have had it up to here with people trying to feel
> safe at my expense when my being armed and trained in reality makes any
> place I am in safer for those around me.
>
> So for those of you not man enough to stand up and fight, get behind
> those of us who are. That is the least you can do.
>
> And its the safest place to be.
>
> I hesitate to write this next as its likely to cause some wet pants, but
> personally, I think that CCW holders should be allowed armed on aircraft
> as long as they have only frangible ammo in a 9mm or less caliber.
>
> Imagine how different things may have been...
>
> Adult animals protect themselves and their loved ones. We need to grow
> up as a country.
>
> One more thing: Given all the times that I've had to listen politely to
> sheeple whine about the 'paranoia' of 'gun-nuts' all the while biting
> back the bile in my throat; I will spell it out: just because you are
> paranoid, doesn't mean someone isn't out to get you.
>
> And they got us.
>
> And the men among us will see justice done. While the sheeple continue
> to bleet.
>
> Marty
>
>
> Brian Mingle wrote:
> >
> > Well said.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > At 10:40 AM 09/14/2001 +0800, you wrote:
> > >Yes, most people can be trusted with weapons, and most people can be
> > >trusted to
> > >make wise decisions. Give those same people heated emotions and far less of
> > >them are capable of wise decisions. Now give those same emotionally distrought
> > >people alchohol, and the group that is still capable of making wise choices is
> > >now very small. Having a weapon within easy reach just increasses the
> > >chances
> > >that a bad decision will turn into a very horrible one. Not trying to
> > >move the
> > >responsiblilty from individual to object mind you. Just adding some food for
> > >thought.
> > >adam
> > >
> > >Marty Galyean wrote:
> > >
> > > > Why is it scary? Why is the weapon scary? Its the terrorist you should
> > > > be worried about. If EVERYONE carried a plastic knife onto planes those
> > > > terrorists would have FAILED MISERABLY. Why? Because the VAST MAJORITY
> > > > of people can be TRUSTED with WEAPONS.
> > > >
> > > > Dang. I am SO tired of these moronic haplophoblic assertions.
> > > >
> > > > Marty
> > > >
> > > > Dan Rivera wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Paul Macey" <pmacey@ans.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:Pine.GSO.4.05.10109120852300.24671-100000@paul.ny.ans.net...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Gus wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't believe NRA has ever supported plastic hand guns. Also
> > > at this
> > > > > > > point the only weapons known to have been used were knife like
> > > weapons.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Still trying to deal with the fact that plastic knives and box cutters
> > > > > > were the tools of the terrorists that allowed them to take control of 4
> > > > > > planes which became responsible for thousands of lost lives.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What is twisted is that at a gun show 3 months ago, a guy was selling
> > > > > plastic knives. I asked who would use
> > > > > this? He said people who want to be safe on a plane, or anywhere else
> > > metal
> > > > > detectors are used.
> > > > > It was sharp, and it was strong.
> > > > > At the time it was just a curiosity, but very scary in retrospect.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "The mother is the most precious possession of the nation,
> > > > so precious that society advances its highest well-being when
> > > > it protects the functions of the mother."
> > > > --Ellen Key
>
> --
> "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
> --The last words of Gen. John B. Sedgwick, 1864
>
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