RE: "The Man" is holding me down

From: Sam Parthemer (srp@home.com)
Date: Tue Feb 12 2002 - 01:30:28 EST


No sympathy here... hehe.

Here's a few things to think about--- First off, if you have an
infraction for only 5 mph over-- you CAN easily win the fight in court.
You can ask for a speedo calibration (your speedo vs. the cops-- they
have to give you 5mph leeway). The FINE for 5 mph over is going to be
less than $100, PLUS, if you were to fight it, chances are the judge
will throw it out immediately (No previous tickets, etc. and not worth
fighting for-- it's not like you slide into a bus load of kids or
something) If you were to explain the entire situation to an attorney
you might have a cause of 'profiling' against the CHP. Second, if you
said screw it and paid the fine-- keep a copy of the infraction. If you
insurance company were to raise your rates for 1 point on your record,
you can send them a copy of the ticket and MOST will let it slide (I had
a ticket for 75 in a 60, told my insurance company when I renewed-- told
them I was late for work.. it happens. They asked why I didn't take
traffic school -- told them my work schedule was such that I didn't have
the time.) My insurance company said ok, people get tickets, no harm--
no raise in my rates.

Last option-- Take traffic school. Now, not to waste an 8 hour day, or
2 evenings--- checkout www.ticketerasers.com I did mine online-- in
about 2.5 hours... MUCH better way to do it.

Sam

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET] On Behalf Of Jayson Woodruff
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:33 PM
To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
Subject: Re: DML: "The Man" is holding me down

Thanks for all the symathy. I'm not so sure I have any choice in what
to
do. I was speeding I'm sure, and that's what the ticket is for.
Anything
else brought up in court has nothing to do with the speeding (at least
it
shouldn't). As Miles said if I take traffic school, the record goes
away.
If I fight the ticket, I loose the traffic school option (Now that I say
that out loud it sounds like an unjust policy).

I don't have a problem with the cop asking me about the tires, but some
dectiveness on his part would have proved real quick they we're mine.
In
fact the other cop mentioned that they were bald race tires and could
see
that my wheels on the truck had recently been changed from the hand
prints
on the brake dust.

Also a few people mentioned the radar gun. He said he paced me.

Well, we'll see if I can find the misplaced ticket now, last I saw it
the
cat had it in his mouth heading for the kichen, then go to court
tomorrow.

sigh, not in the mood for this on my 65hour work week.

Jay W

Jayson Woodruff wrote:

> Damnit, I got profiled big time tonight. Read the whole thing.
>
> To set the mood. I got up at 5am today to do an AutoX race. Left all
> the equipment in my car and drove to work, then later drove to my
> fiancee's work, then finally came home at 9pm
>
> I got a ticket right by my house for doing 65 in a 60. And a warning
> for failure to yield. I don't doubt I was doing at least 65. I
didn't
> look at my speedo, but I just got off the freeway and that whole
> periferial vision speed blur jazz was in full effect.
>
> The cop lights me up as I'm moving into a left hand turn lane. So I'm
> stopped at the RED light (for about ten seconds) and he hits his siren
a
> honk, I don't know what else to do, so ten more seconds later he's on
> the loud speak telling me to pull sharply to the right (right turn
from
> the left lane). I pull into a bus stop and a second cop pulls behind
> the first. I shut the car down, off the lights.
>
> First question. "Who's wheels are those". Mine Sir. "What vehicle
are
> they for". This one sir. "Why do you have them now". I had a race
in
> San Diego today. "In thins vehicle". Yes Sir. "Licence and
> registration".
>
> I hand it over. "Proof of insurance" (I thought they could only ask
for
> this in a accident). I hand it over. He sees my expired driver's
> licence in my wallet that I keep for other ID purposes and nestoliga
(it
> was my first licence). "Is that a fake ID" he askes. No Sir, I
explain
> why I have it. "Your suppose to turn these back into the DMV". I did
> not know that sir. "I'll just take that for you".
>
> "You been drinking tonight". No Sir. "What's that". Shines his
light
> on a pile of of stuff on the passengers floor board which includes a
> clear plastic cup. Just a pile of my stuff I threw in here. "Step
out
> of the car".
>
> They put me on the hood of one of the cars, pat me down removing cell
> phone, keys and wallet. Then sit me on the curb (arm twisted behind
> back the whole time). "Anything illegal in the truck you'd like to
tell
> me about". No sir. "Would you give me permission to search the
> vehicle". I'm awful tired, is there an alternative?. "We can impound
> the vehicle and detain you for suspsion of possesion of illegal
goods".
> Go ahead and search the truck I say. Now this is a little embarassing.
> Lights flashing, my truck doors wide open with a cop going through it
> while I sit on the curb with a spotlight on my face in MY IMMEDIATE
> NEIGHBORHOOD.
>
> I ask to have my sweat shirt out of the truck (it's cold and I'm
> starting to shiver). "You can have it when he's done searching the
> vehicle" says cop #2. 15minutes later, cop is done. Says he'll site
me
> for the speeding and warn for the failure to yield. Writes the ticket
> (has to look up both codes in his hand book, hmm... rookie?).
>
> Anyways, speeach about being safe, blah, blah, blah. Then he says
"You
> should do something about those wheels, it's suspsious." Well sir, I
> haven't been home since I had to use them.
>
> Damn. 8years of driving so far, and no infractions or accidents. Now
I
> have to go to traffic school.
>
> Well I think most will agree with me that 65 in a 60 rarely deserves a
> glance. But to drill and embarras me for 1hr, then still write the
> ticket seems just silly.
>
> oh well,
> Sh*t Happens.
>
> Jay W
> 505/287 Dakota.



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