Actually, MS states you can copy the cd's all day long..... its the liscense
key that counts. Hell at work we sell copied cd's to customers.... its legal
so long as there is an authentic liscense key (book).
Marty
""Andy Levy"" <andylevy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Try again. The FSM states what you can and can't do with it as far as
> compying and retransmitting it. REGARDLESS of whether you profit or not.
>
> By your logic, it's also legal to make and distribute thousands of copies
of
> Windows as long as you don't make money off it. Which it's not.
>
> ""Gary Hedlin"" <ghedlin@theramp.net> wrote in message
> news:aecv98$6nt$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> >
> > YES! Thats correct
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gary Hedlin
> > "The Crazy Quadraplegic"
> > ghedlin@theramp.net (business)
> > ragingquad@yahoo.com (personal)
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> >
> > ""Jon"" <jons@laserdrive.com> wrote in message
> > news:aecup8$5r2$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> > >
> > > Everything I've ever heard or read about copyrights is as follows:
> > >
> > > You can copy all you want. If you try and make money then you are in
> > > violation.
> > >
> > > I think the idea is great anyway.
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Gary Hedlin"" <ghedlin@theramp.net> wrote in message
> > > news:aecuei$5cd$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> > > >
> > > > Guys.... this is not brain surgery! Splitting hairs will get us
> > nowhere.
> > > >
> > > > I've got 3 people that want to do this already. I think if we kept
> this
> > > > between ourselves, nobody's going to complain. Agian, if we already
> own
> > > the
> > > > manuals, creating the PDF files is well within our rights. As far
as
> > > > sharing them, well we may need to explore our options.
> > > >
> > > > I would rather do the work, send the PDF files to the owner of the
> > manual,
> > > > and let them decide where they want to go.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gary Hedlin
> > > > "The Crazy Quadraplegic"
> > > > ghedlin@theramp.net (business)
> > > > ragingquad@yahoo.com (personal)
> > > > **Also Webmaster For**
> > > > http://garyhedlin.com
> > > > http://socaldakota.com
> > > > http://scsilverdak.com
> > > > http://assistivetechnologies.com
> > > > ...And Many More!
> > > >
> > > > ""Andy Levy"" <andylevy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:aecsih$3id$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > You really think it will be that anonymous? We leave a trail
> > > everywhere.
> > > > > They can find the DML archives. The hosting ISP could give up
logs
> > and
> > > > > names when lawysers threaten.
> > > > >
> > > > > "aww, c'mon, who's gonna get hurt" really isn't a valid defense
> > against
> > > > > this. The FSM states on PAGE ONE that any storage & distribution
of
> > the
> > > > > contents is prohiubited without express consent from Chrysler.
> > > > >
> > > > > ""Martin Nowak"" <got-speed@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:aecr29$2je$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is intrest in the project....Count me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One thing that comes to mind is just doing it (the electronic
> copy)
> > > and
> > > > > toss
> > > > > > it out on the web on a site somewhere. If by chance chrysler did
> > find
> > > > it,
> > > > > > who would they blame ?? Noone. They would just ask the hosting
isp
> > to
> > > > take
> > > > > > it down.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marty
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ""Gary Hedlin"" <ghedlin@theramp.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:aecd9o$qig$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've ran into this problem before. As far as the manuals
being
> > > > > accessable
> > > > > > > to the general public, there's no way I would even THINK about
> > doing
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > unless there were controlls put in place to only allow certian
> > > people
> > > > to
> > > > > > > access them. They WILL NOT be available to the general
public.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let me put it this way, It would be illegal for me to take
ANY
> > > book,
> > > > > scan
> > > > > > > it, and post it online to the general public. The same as if
I
> > took
> > > > the
> > > > > > > files, ran off 1,000 coppies on my Xerox printer (which I am
> more
> > > than
> > > > > > > capable of doing) and sold them on e-bay.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In no way would doing this (the project) be considered
> > distribution
> > > > > > because
> > > > > > > (a) the general public does not have access and (b) a person
has
> > the
> > > > > right
> > > > > > > to put something he bought into an accessable format for
> personal
> > > use.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At this point, I'm not even sure I can get enough interest in
> this
> > > > > project
> > > > > > > to make it worthwhile. If there is enough interest, I am sure
a
> > > > private
> > > > > > > orginization like ourselves has the right to have a private
> > > collection
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > use over electronic means.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Gary Hedlin
> > > > > > > "The Crazy Quadraplegic"
> > > > > > > ghedlin@theramp.net (business)
> > > > > > > ragingquad@yahoo.com (personal)
> > > > > > > **Also Webmaster For**
> > > > > > > http://garyhedlin.com
> > > > > > > http://socaldakota.com
> > > > > > > http://scsilverdak.com
> > > > > > > http://assistivetechnologies.com
> > > > > > > ...And Many More!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Michael Clark" <dml@mikesdakota.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:144209073343.20020614035425@mikesdakota.com...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well, all I need is the manuals... The rest is easy.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Plus, I've got a lot of time on my hands annyway :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You might want to think about the legal aspects of
> > > > > > > > posting whole manuals online. I'm sure the publishing
> > > > > > > > company that produces these manuals would love to turn
> > > > > > > > their legal department loose on something like this.
> > > > > > > > It would be GREAT if you could do this though. I would
> > > > > > > > just hate to see you go to all that trouble, just to
> > > > > > > > get into serious trouble...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --Mike
> > > > > > > > www.mikesdakota.com
> > > > > > > >
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