RE: A little off topic: Airplane buffs/Arizona people?

From: Jeff Durling (jdurling@directvinternet.com)
Date: Wed Jul 10 2002 - 14:27:41 EDT


Not to drag this out any further but you're right. Been awhile since
I've been involved with information for this and never was really up on
the new place.

Jeff Durling
Systems Administrator
(954) 741-9742
jdurling@wdci-telecom.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net] On Behalf Of Stlaurent Mr
Steven
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:38 AM
To: 'dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net'
Subject: DML: RE: RE: RE: RE: A little off topic: Airplane buffs/Arizona
people?

Try on the eastern border of Utah and Colorado. More isolation from the
public eyes.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Durling [mailto:jdurling@directvinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:27 AM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: RE: RE: RE: A little off topic: Airplane buffs/Arizona
people?

Don't mean to question ya. But the flights still fly out of Vegas every
day. I know too much about this and lets just say the reason is in the
past. BTW, the new test facility is supposedly now in the northern part
of Nevada near some other air force base that has a lot more land (think
100's of square miles) and was able to build a new facility on there
land and have now way for anyone to ever get close enough for photos.
Groom lake is still in use but not much. It's now believed that a lot of
the flights that fly there are now empty to just throw people off.
Biggest problem with Groom lake is all of the Toxic waste that was
dumped there from research. Too many people who worked there get way too
many strange illnesses. BTW, I am not a conspiracy freak or anything
like that. I do know a lot about this subject but don't want to get into
that.

Jeff Durling
Systems Administrator
(954) 741-9742
jdurling@wdci-telecom.com
www.wdci-telecom.com

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net] On Behalf Of Esler, Joel
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:47 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: RE: RE: A little off topic: Airplane buffs/Arizona people?

A) Groom Lake no longer exists. (area 51)... It's a little known, but
publicly known fact that the US Gov has relocated this Top Secret test
facility... they kind of just picked up and moved, and left everything
there. It WAS just north west of Las Vegas.... Out in the middle of
nowhere. You can find it on any Atlas, just look for "Groom Lake Bed
(Dry)"

B) The flights into Groom Lake took off somewhere in California, I am
having
a mind blank right now of the actual airport, however, it was in Cali.
The
Jets where all white, you guys are correct about that, however, there
are no
corresponding flights that go with it, I.E. they fly alone, they have no
escort.

C) No, I will not tell you where they moved the test facility to, so
don't
ask. I don't officially know, and I will not look it up. It's not like
one
of those things that can just be found, and I don't have the need to
know
anyway. ;) (just kidding big brother)

D) Which direction were they flying in? North, South?

Joel Esler
http://www.angelfire.com/hi/Mystikal2001/carshow.html

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net]On Behalf Of tmfu
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:27 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: RE: A little off topic: Airplane buffs/Arizone people?

>
>
> I'm out here in Lake Havasu with the girlfriend and her family doing
some
> skiing. Every now and then (5-6 times a day) I see a trail from a jet.
Pop
> on the binoculars, it's a big white plane, I can't see any
> markings, and it
> has 4 jet engines. I've noticed that there's another smaller
> plane always by
> the large plane (within 1 or 1/2 mile), with no jet stream visible.
Does
> anyone know what those are? Military aircraft?
>

I remember reading sometime ago about a goverment installation that the
people get ferried in by jet. I want to say Groom Lake, but I could be
wrong. But they have like 5-6 Boeing 7x7 aircraft than make runs in the
morning and in the evening.. I think they land in Vegas..

Greg
2k1 Dodge Neon ES
Rahway, NJ
http://kernelpanic.dyn.dhs.org



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