Re: Re: Re: Re: Dakota a half ton

From: George T. Geissinger (ustow@ptd.net)
Date: Mon Jul 29 2002 - 18:32:14 EDT


The 10,500 would be GCVW (Gross Combined Vehicle weight) I have seen these
hitches in S-10's. Which system are you looking for a 5th wheeel type or a
ball. I will check with my supplier and see what is made.
GEORGE!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Canucker Trucker" <mal5@ualberta.net>
To: <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 2:44 PM
Subject: DML: Re: Re: Re: Dakota a half ton

>
> um .. my 2 cents:
>
> the 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton rating is based on payload in the box if I'm not
> mistaken ... Dealer here lists the Dak. as a standard 750lb payload ... =
> 3/8 ton ... The towing capacity is completely different (though the
tongue
> weight is still limited by the payload in the box)...
>
> --
> Canuck
> --------------------------------------------
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>
> ""Tony Cellana"" <acellan1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:07d201c23723$39480740$70602241@a.tampabay.rr.com...
> >
> > The 10,500 everyone is referring to is the MAX Gross Vehicle weight.
> Truck
> > + Cargo + trailer load, NOT the trailer alone.
> >
> > Any time you are dragging a heavy trailer, it SHOULD have its own brakes
> > PERIOD. Whether it is an electric setup, or a set of surge hydraulics.
> >
> > I have used my 98 5.2 5spd 3.92 RC to haul dressed BB marine engines
1000
> > lbs, the truck did squat a bit. I have also used it to haul several
> > raceboats to different sites around FL. These boats weigh in arount
4500
> +
> > trailer + mounted tool boxes, about 6000-6500 lbs. Again no problems.
> Yes,
> > braking distances are longer. There is more weight, and the same swept
> > braking surfaces. Makes sense to me.
> >
> > If you are carrying a large load in the bed, carry it as far forward as
> > possible to ease the tail wagging the dog effect.
> >
> > TonyC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mr. Plow <adam_is_mr_plow@hotmail.com>
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > Date: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:59 AM
> > Subject: DML: Re: Dakota a half ton
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Hey Paul,
> > >
> > >My Dak has the tow package, the beefier rear end etc. as well, but i
> > haven't
> > >towed very much with it, other than other trucks stuck in the mud.
> <cough>
> > ><andy levy> <cough>
> > >hehehe
> > >But the heaviesty thing i've ever towed was an older Mercury Sable
wagon
> on
> > >a little dolly. Figure probably 3000 lb car, or there abouts, te dolly
> was
> > >pretty light, maybe only 200 or so lbs. Anyway, it rode ok, really
> wasn't
> > >that much strain on the 4.7, but braking obviously needed a longer
> > distance.
> > >And that really is the important thing, braking. You could probably
get
> > the
> > >Dak to pull 10,000+ lbs, but getting it to stop all that weight is a
> whole
> > >'nother story!!!!
> > >Little story for ya to kind of illustrate what i'm trying to say about
> the
> > >Dakota's abilities, and keeping it within "safe" limits:
> > >I was coming back from a camping trip, and we see this little car, i
> > "think"
> > >it was a Kia Sephia, looks a lot like the most recent Ford Escorts.
> > Anyway,
> > >this little car was towing this absolutely MASSIVE boat, it must have
> > >weighed like 15,000 lbs, maybe more, and was probably between 30-35
feet
> > >long. It looked like it could carry 8-10 people comfortably, and had
> > >below-deck sleeping for at least 4 people. Like i said, this boat was
> > >massive!!!
> > >Anyway, the little Kia's rear bumper was pretty close to scraping the
> > >ground, and over any bump, mostlikely did... But, it was pulling this
> boat
> > >at about 20 km/h (12mph).
> > >Now obviously this is not a safe thing to do, but it can be done.
> > >So, can the Daks tow 10,000+ lbs in trailer, crap in the bed? Yes.
> > >Should it be done? No.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >The Adam Blaster
> > >Two words, figure it out.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hi Adam
> > >> I agree, it actually sounds proposterous! Unlike what I assume
to
> > be
> > >>the majority of members of this List, I use my truck for work daily.
> Mine
> > >>has the optional 2,000# factory GVW rating and trailer hitch. My
> trailer
> > >>weighs only 550# empty and @ the tongue about 270#. When pulling
around
> > >>2,500# combined trailer cargo and trailer weight and little or nothing
> in
> > >>the
> > >>truck it drives as though there was a giant hand behind pushing
strongly
> > >>forward. If I add about 1,000# truck cargo it tends to handle better
> > except
> > >>for stopping power. I never feel safe driving more than 50mph with
> loads
> > >>and
> > >>loaded trailer and then keep several car length distance if possible
> from
> > >>the
> > >>guy ahead of me.
> > >> I've only had a full 2,000# load in the truck alone several
times.
> > >>The
> > >>body rubber suspension limit bumpers are about 3" off the rear axle
and
> > the
> > >>tailpipe may be even closer to the ground than 3". The rear
suspension
> > >>bottoms almost constantly over very minor road surfaces. Front seems
to
> > >>take
> > >>2,000# very well. Incidentally, when hauling dirt, concrete chunks,
> > >>bricks,
> > >>sand, etc., you reach a 2,000# load without filling the 6.5' cargo bed
> to
> > >>the
> > >>side tops. So with products that have a high weight density you do
not
> > >>fill
> > >>the cubic capacity of the cargo box to reach maximum load capacity
even
> > >>with
> > >>the optional 2,000# pkg.
> > >> At around 15k mi I replaced the factory shocks with Bilsteins
and
> at
> > >>the
> > >>same time both F&R stabilizer bars with Hotchkis mounted in poly
> bushings.
> > >>These larger diameter bars made a tremendous improvement in overall
safe
> > >>handling for a loaded truck and especially with a trailer too. The
> > factory
> > >>setup was too tame and the trailer tended to whip the truck like a dog
> > >>whose
> > >>tail is too big for his body! This was especially noted when loads
are
> > >>real
> > >>ly heavy and the suspension is almost fully compressed.
> > >>
> > >>Cheers
> > >>
> > >>Paul Sahlin
> > >
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