Steve,
I cannot begin to explain how moving you're post is. An eutopia of emotion
and logic. Possibly the best post ever made to the DML.
If i ever need brakes, I wouldn't hezitate to hire you.... reguardless of
the costs! YOU DA MAN!!!!
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"steve preston" <steve239dak@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20021128045426.34315.qmail@web40902.mail.yahoo.com...
>
> OK,I was trying to be nice,but now the gloves are
> on,and all bets are off. Let me at you!! :)
>
> Let`s get three things straight,right off the bat.
> This is for those who doubt my credentials:
>
> 1) I have replaced several brake pads,and three rotors
> in my lifetime. So there is little doubt that I think
> I know what I`m talking about.
> 2) Yes,my "formal" brake training may be somewhat
> limited,but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last
> night. :)
> 3) Sometimes,I get these magazines,and they have
> rotors sometimes,and I can tell by the pictures what
> they are. Not all the time.
>
> My main reason for believing that rotors warp,is
> because I have been told that. By
> hard-working,church-going people. People that are not
> ashamed to be called Americans,nor afraid to dream of
> a little place called Hope. And they would have no
> reason to lie to me. Period. :) Secondly,on my
> Dak,when I depress the brake pedal,I can feel a
> pulsation that I have,at times,envisioned as being a
> warpage. Now it may be that I am actually feeling the
> result of what could be considered a molecular
> "metamorphosis",if you will,resulting in varying
> frictional properties of the disc surface,which could
> tend to become exacerbated over time,making the
> presumption of warpage all the more tempting,albeit
> erroneous. Yes,that is possible. But I feel IN MY
> HEART that rotors warp. There is no guage or spec
> sheet that can verify a gut feeling. It is something
> that I feel deeply inside. And is it not man`s
> soulfelt passion that rights the wrongs of the
> world,and indeed,sets the benchmark of all that the
> frailty of human existence could ever hope to achieve?
> Is not the pinnacle of Opus the Achilles Heel of
> Odysseus?? Does it not take three licks to get to the
> Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?
>
> I will now clear my mailbox in anticipation of your
> apology.
>
> Steve P.
>
>
> --- Mark <Gilpin.MCKnospam@lycos.com> wrote:
> >
> > So what's on your resume. It's sounds like this guy
> > can hop-up on the whole
> > box of fruit loops and still have forgotten more
> > than most of the people on
> > this list will ever know about brakes. If you have
> > rotors that that have
> > been changed at a molecular level by heat, changing
> > the properties for the
> > base iron to a harder material (cemenite), that does
> > not wear at the same
> > rate as the original material, and after a few
> > thousand miles check the
> > surface with a dial indicator, what will you see?
> > You'll see a variation in
> > the surface height (relative to the point of the
> > indicator). Is this
> > warpage? No. It's uneven wear of the surface of the
> > rotor. If you cut this
> > rotor, will the surface again be true? Yes. Will it
> > stay true? No. The
> > reason, The change in the properties of the iron in
> > the location of the
> > previous uneven heat exposure goes deeper than the
> > amount of material
> > removed in the machining process. So as the rotor
> > starts to wear again, it
> > will wear unevenly, just like it did when you
> > thought it "warped" the first
> > time. Period. [Sarcasm inserted here] Reading and
> > understanding are not the
> > same thing.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > "steve preston" <steve239dak@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > message
> >
> news:20021126022951.13456.qmail@web40904.mail.yahoo.com...
> > >
> > > Brake rotors warp,period. The guy admits that
> > turning
> > > a rotor takes care of the problem for a while,then
> > it
> > > comes back? That`s basically saying that warpage
> > is
> > > the problem,turning it corrects the warpage,but
> > then
> > > it warps again,so it`s not warpage that`s the
> > problem!
> > > DUH. He`s hopped-up on them Fruit Loops. Steve
> > P.
> > > --- raymond.irons@gm.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have over 90K miles on my Dak still on the
> > > > original brake rotors although
> > > > I have changed the pads once since I bought the
> > > > truck. I'm starting to feel
> > > > some slight pulsation in the steering when I get
> > on
> > > > the brakes moderately
> > > > hard so I started searching for information on
> > new
> > > > brake rotors and pads.
> > > > Since most of the folks on the DML have
> > recommended
> > > > Powerslot rotors and
> > > > Raybestos ceramic pads, I wanted to go looking
> > for
> > > > an inexpensive source.
> > > > While in the midst of my search, I stumbled
> > across
> > > > this article and it has
> > > > me wondering if I should go with the powerslots
> > and
> > > > raybestos setup or just
> > > > stick with the OEM equipment and follow the
> > breakin
> > > > procedures described in
> > > > the article. I'd like for ya'll to read over
> > this
> > > > and let me know what you
> > > > think. It does make for some interesting reading
> > and
> > > > I'm willing to bet,
> > > > it's gonna start some very interesting
> > discussions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Ray Irons,
> > > > Dover, DE
> > > >
> > > > Link to article:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/warped_rotors_myth.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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