OK,I was trying to be nice,but now the gloves are
on,and all bets are off. Let me at you!! :)
Let`s get three things straight,right off the bat.
This is for those who doubt my credentials:
1) I have replaced several brake pads,and three rotors
in my lifetime. So there is little doubt that I think
I know what I`m talking about.
2) Yes,my "formal" brake training may be somewhat
limited,but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last
night. :)
3) Sometimes,I get these magazines,and they have
rotors sometimes,and I can tell by the pictures what
they are. Not all the time.
My main reason for believing that rotors warp,is
because I have been told that. By
hard-working,church-going people. People that are not
ashamed to be called Americans,nor afraid to dream of
a little place called Hope. And they would have no
reason to lie to me. Period. :) Secondly,on my
Dak,when I depress the brake pedal,I can feel a
pulsation that I have,at times,envisioned as being a
warpage. Now it may be that I am actually feeling the
result of what could be considered a molecular
"metamorphosis",if you will,resulting in varying
frictional properties of the disc surface,which could
tend to become exacerbated over time,making the
presumption of warpage all the more tempting,albeit
erroneous. Yes,that is possible. But I feel IN MY
HEART that rotors warp. There is no guage or spec
sheet that can verify a gut feeling. It is something
that I feel deeply inside. And is it not man`s
soulfelt passion that rights the wrongs of the
world,and indeed,sets the benchmark of all that the
frailty of human existence could ever hope to achieve?
Is not the pinnacle of Opus the Achilles Heel of
Odysseus?? Does it not take three licks to get to the
Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?
I will now clear my mailbox in anticipation of your
apology.
Steve P.
--- Mark <Gilpin.MCKnospam@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> So what's on your resume. It's sounds like this guy
> can hop-up on the whole
> box of fruit loops and still have forgotten more
> than most of the people on
> this list will ever know about brakes. If you have
> rotors that that have
> been changed at a molecular level by heat, changing
> the properties for the
> base iron to a harder material (cemenite), that does
> not wear at the same
> rate as the original material, and after a few
> thousand miles check the
> surface with a dial indicator, what will you see?
> You'll see a variation in
> the surface height (relative to the point of the
> indicator). Is this
> warpage? No. It's uneven wear of the surface of the
> rotor. If you cut this
> rotor, will the surface again be true? Yes. Will it
> stay true? No. The
> reason, The change in the properties of the iron in
> the location of the
> previous uneven heat exposure goes deeper than the
> amount of material
> removed in the machining process. So as the rotor
> starts to wear again, it
> will wear unevenly, just like it did when you
> thought it "warped" the first
> time. Period. [Sarcasm inserted here] Reading and
> understanding are not the
> same thing.
>
> Mark
>
> "steve preston" <steve239dak@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message
>
news:20021126022951.13456.qmail@web40904.mail.yahoo.com...
> >
> > Brake rotors warp,period. The guy admits that
> turning
> > a rotor takes care of the problem for a while,then
> it
> > comes back? That`s basically saying that warpage
> is
> > the problem,turning it corrects the warpage,but
> then
> > it warps again,so it`s not warpage that`s the
> problem!
> > DUH. He`s hopped-up on them Fruit Loops. Steve
> P.
> > --- raymond.irons@gm.com wrote:
> > >
> > > I have over 90K miles on my Dak still on the
> > > original brake rotors although
> > > I have changed the pads once since I bought the
> > > truck. I'm starting to feel
> > > some slight pulsation in the steering when I get
> on
> > > the brakes moderately
> > > hard so I started searching for information on
> new
> > > brake rotors and pads.
> > > Since most of the folks on the DML have
> recommended
> > > Powerslot rotors and
> > > Raybestos ceramic pads, I wanted to go looking
> for
> > > an inexpensive source.
> > > While in the midst of my search, I stumbled
> across
> > > this article and it has
> > > me wondering if I should go with the powerslots
> and
> > > raybestos setup or just
> > > stick with the OEM equipment and follow the
> breakin
> > > procedures described in
> > > the article. I'd like for ya'll to read over
> this
> > > and let me know what you
> > > think. It does make for some interesting reading
> and
> > > I'm willing to bet,
> > > it's gonna start some very interesting
> discussions.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Ray Irons,
> > > Dover, DE
> > >
> > > Link to article:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/warped_rotors_myth.htm
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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