Re: Problem with some members on this forum

From: jon@dakota-truck.net
Date: Mon Mar 03 2003 - 16:59:44 EST


"Andy Levy" <andylevy@yahoo.com> wrote:
: <Tubamirbls@aol.com> wrote in message news:a4.349b3afa.2b950373@aol.com...
:> Something has happened to my "connection" to the DML. The volume of
:> message traffic daily began to dwindle in mid Feb and for the past week or
: so
:> is down to less than one message per day. Would you be kind enough to send
: a message (or just
:> forward this one) to the DML list owner asking that he tweek something to
: get
:> me back into the system? Many thanks

: The problem isn't with the list but with AOL. AOL deems a lot of DML mail
: as SPAM and it never gets delivered. Jon's been around in circles with AOL
: several times over this. Solution: Lose AOL.

    Yep, IMHO, that is the best solution. :-) Not only for that reason,
but for the general silly/proprietary nature of the service, the high
cost, and AOL's blatant disregard for the 2nd Amendment to the US
Constitution.

  Anyhoo... For anyone wanting to stay with AOL, I think I have come
up with a solution. Here's a brief summary of the problem, and the
solution:

  Problem:

   What I am pretty sure is happening is that AOL is considering DML posts
to be SPAM. What happens behind the scenes when a DML post is sent to
AOL is that the DML server connects to AOL's server, specifies the list of
recipients for the message (all of the DML members using AOL), then sends
the message. I think that because of the large number of recipients,
AOL's brain-dead SPAM filters are assuming that it is SPAM and is not
delivering it to their users. (I guess they have never heard of a
mailing list!) The REALLY weird part is that AOL accepts the message,
never bounces it back, and never notifies the recipients - they just
quietly drop the message.

  Solution:

   I believe I have come up with a solution to the problem, which I
have been testing with an AOL DMLer, and it seems to be working.
Essentially, it involves unsubscribing from the normal DML list and
subscribing to an alternative one. Subscribing to this alternative
list does two things:
  
  1) It still allows you to post to the DML, even though you are
     no longer subscribed to the "main" list

  2) For every address subscribed to this list, the DML server will
     connect to your server (AOL in this case), send the message to
     a single recipient (you), then disconnect.

  This seems to get around the SPAM filters.

   For any AOLer who is not recieving DML mail, or who thinks that
the volume of DML mail is down, I would recommend unsubscribing from
the regular DML list and subscribing to this special one. The name
of this special list is "dakota-truck-aol". You can subscribe via
the DML home page (http://www.dakota-truck.net/CGI-BIN/DML.html)
or by sending the following commands to majordomo@dakota-truck.net
in the BODY of the e-mail message:

unsubscribe dakota-truck you@aol.com
subscribe dakota-truck-aol you@aol.com

  (Obviously, replace the fake e-mail address above with your own, actual
e-mail address)

  If anyone has any questions or problems, feel free to get in touch.

-- 

-Jon-

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