RE: Re: M-1 Intake gains?

From: kenallgood@cox.net
Date: Tue Apr 01 2003 - 15:47:36 EST


Yeah, I'm thinking I'm willing to go up to about $300. After taking shipping on that, you're talking $320+, and seeing you can get it for around $400 shipped brand new.....

Don't let me stop you though, I'm not even sure if I'm going to get it. If I don't need to replace my belly pan gasket, I won't do it. It was up to $260 last time I checked, looks pretty good.

Ken Allgood
97 CC SLT 5.2L

>
> From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@attbi.com>
> Date: 2003/04/01 Tue PM 02:48:03 EST
> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> Subject: RE: Re: DML: M-1 Intake gains?
>
>
> I was going to bid too Ken, but go for it, I think anything under $325 is
> likely a good deal.
>
> Rascal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> kenallgood@cox.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:03 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: Re: DML: M-1 Intake gains?
>
>
> Yup, picked up a nice Torque Wrench when I was checking out the rockers on
> my Probe, and had to use it to install the studs for my 1.7 rockers on the
> Dakota.. Love that Torque wrench :)
>
> Actually, I was thinking about buying that intake that is on ebay right now
> (ends today), trying to decide if I want to buy that one or not. Thanks for
> the input (u 2 ray)
>
> Ken Allgood
> 97 CC SLT 5.2L
>
> >
> > From: jon@dakota-truck.net
> > Date: 2003/04/01 Tue PM 12:35:44 EST
> > To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> > Subject: Re: DML: M-1 Intake gains?
> >
> >
> > kenallgood@cox.net wrote:
> > [...]
> > : It's my understanding that to do the Belly pan gasket, you have to
> remove the intake manifold etc, right (not sure exactly what the belly pan
> gasket is, just how to tell if it's blown..hehe)? If so, figured since
> while it's apart, might as well put a better intake manifold on....
> Especially if I get a good deal :)
> >
> >
> > That is correct - to fix the belly pan gasket, the entire intake
> > manifold must be removed.
> >
> >
> > :What are the pros and cons with going this route?? Thanks
> >
> >
> > The pros are no more belly pan problems, increased performance and
> > fuel economy.
> >
> > The cons are a higher cost, and depending on the emissions situation
> > where you live, if a visual inspection is required, there might be a
> > problem passing the visual portion of the emissions test.
> >
> > Regarding the cost, be aware of the little "extras" which can add up.
> > The manifold itself is around 60-75% of your total expense. The 2bbl
> > (P5007398 for '92-95 or P5007852 for '96+) is around $330 and the
> > 4bbl (P5249816) is about $240. Don't forget to add in the cost of an
> > installation kit; Mopar makes one for the 2bbl (P5007638) which is
> > about $60. Mopar does not have a 4bbl installation kit so you will
> > need to fabricate it yourself or purchase an aftermarket one, such
> > as the one I make at steigerperformance.com (shameless plug) ;-)
> > Figure on $70-90 for that, depending on your truck's model year and
> > options. You will also need an intake gasket kit (4897383AC) which
> > is $20-30 (but you would need that even if you were just reinstalling
> > your stock intake manifold). Since you've got high mileage, plan on
> > spending the $5-10 on a new bypass hose (H0063735). If your truck is
> > a 1995 or older, and you are installing the 4bbl intake, you would
> > need a new exhaust manifold EGR gasket (53010000) ($2) for the blockoff
> > plate, and if it is a '92-95 and you are installing the 2bbl, you would
> > also need a new intake manifold EGR gasket (sorry, I don't have a part
> > number on this one, I think its a few dollars). You can probably
> > re-use your throttle body gasket, but if not a new one is only $2
> > (53030541). If you are installing the 2bbl, I believe your current
> > thermostat and thermostat housing will swap right over, but if you are
> > installing the 4bbl, you will need a new thermostat (about $5-10 at any
> > parts store) and a thermostat housing (P4286759) which is $10-15. In
> > either case, plan on spending a few cents on a thermostat gasket.
> > (All part numbers listed above are Mopar.)
> >
> > Don't forget the RTV, thread locker, and anti-sieze. ($10-15)
> >
> > So, all total, you would probably be looking at about $440 to install
> > the 2bbl and around $385 to install the 4bbl, and about $50 to to
> > re-install your stock intake. Keep in mind that none of the prices
> > I have listed include shipping, so plan on that, or tax if you will be
> > purchasing them locally. Mail order is probably the cheapest route, and
> > if you can order everything at once from one source you can probably keep
> > the shipping costs to a minimum. (You will still need to go to the
> > parts store for RTV, the thermostat, etc.) Also, the prices listed
> > were about what you could expect to pay from a retailer; if you find
> > a used intake on e-bay or something, you can obviously do it for less.
> >
> > An optional step, with whichever intake you install would be to
> > hit it with some clear, high temp spray paint to ward off corrosion
> > and keep it looking nice.
> >
> > I may have overlooked a couple of items (like assuming that you
> > have access to a torque wrench) but that should give you a decent
> > idea of what is involved. I hope it helps!
> >
> > --
> >
> > -Jon-
> >
> > .---- Jon Steiger ------ jon@dakota-truck.net or jon@jonsteiger.com
> ------.
> > | I'm the: AOPA, DoD, EAA, NMA, NRA, SPA, USUA. Rec & UL Pilot - SEL
> |
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> ----'
> >
>
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