I wonder what it looks like under the liner of my Shelby.
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From: <jon@dakota-truck.net>
To: <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: DML: Bedliner "facts"
>
> andy levy <andylevy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> : http://www.bedlinerfacts.com/facts_f.html
>
> : Saw this on alt.autos.dodge.trucks this evening. Smells like General
> : Motors is behind it, but I can't trace it directly back to them.
>
> : Funny, my dealer was *impressed* w/ my Line-X and seemed to think it was
> : better to do that than a plastic drop-in.
>
>
> What a load of crap!!! (Err, the web site, not you, Andy) :-)
>
> Just about the only thing on the site that isn't an exaggeration or
> outright untruth is in regards to dent resistance. Plastic drop-ins
> generally have ridges which are great for impact protection, whereas
> a spray-in basically lays on top of the bed and the protection is
> derived from thickness and somewhat from surface tension. However,
> I did see an interesting demonstration where a concrete block was
> dropped 20 feet onto concrete and it smashed to bits. Another block
> was coated with Line-X and dropped, it just bounced. (The block inside
> might be cracked, I don't know, but it did hold together...)
>
> My favorite part of the site is where they make a big deal out of
> having to scuff up the bed to apply a spray-in. (Oh, no! You mean
> its going to scuff up that paint which I'll never see again anyway?)
> The horror! Scuffing the paint removes the corrosion protection?
> Ummm, only on the part which is about to have a QUARTER INCH LAYER
> of water repellant material on it! Scuffing the paint voids your
> paint warranty? Really? Why would I need paint warranty work done
> on the paint UNDER THE SPRAY-IN LINER? Scuffing the paint is causing
> "excess wear"? What, pray tell, is the GM body shop going to do
> if they need to re-paint a bed? Oh yeah - SCUFF UP OR REMOVE THE
> PAINT. :-P
>
> Oh, and I also love the part where they say a spray-in's skid
> resistance can diminish as the liner wears and becomes smoother.
> They don't actually say anything about the plastic drop-in's
> skid resistance though. I wonder if that has anything to do with
> the fact that they DON'T HAVE ANY?!?? :-P
>
> Sorry about the ranting - sometimes I just get set off in the
> face of blatant stupidity. :-) I HAVE a plastic drop-in and
> will NEVER get another. (I wish I knew then what I know now about
> drop-ins...) I don't care what that site says, a plastic drop-in
> WILL wear your paint down to bare metal. And unlike a spray-in,
> water CAN and DOES get under a drop-in. The only reason it doesn't
> corrode is because the liner's constant wear doesn't allow rust to
> stick around. As soon as you remove it though... Better do something
> quick!
>
>
>
> The smoking gun:
>
>
> Ok, so who is responsible for this stupid load of crap? I am
> 99.999% sure it is Penda, makers of aftermarket truck accessories,
> including spray-in liners:
>
> A whois shows bedlinerfacts.com to be owned by a company named
> Pinnacle Communication Group. A web search shows them to be some
> sort of media contact for a few companies such as Dynomax, Monroe,
> ...and Penda. That's not real conclusive in itself, but now
> consider this interesting little press release put out by Pinnacle
> Communication Group on behalf of Penda regarding advances in
> drop-in bedliners:
>
> http://www.pendacorp.com/files/Skid%20Resistor%20Q&A%2007-10-02.pdf
>
> Here's the relevant part:
>
>
> "Spray-on liners are entirely different story, however. The
> installation of leading spray-on liners calls for scuffing or
> grinding the original paint finish, which essentially destroys
> the OEM appearance of the bed. In addition, the installation
> of a spray-on may void the vehicle's OEM paint warranty. This
> is a serious enough concern that General Motors now considers
> the installation of a spray-on to be 'excessive damage' to
> the truck. That's a story every lighttruck owner deserves to
> hear before committing to one of these very expensive products."
>
>
> I rest my case. :-)
>
>
> Although I didn't bother to research any further, if someone was to
> check out the plastic bedliner shown in the bed of that Chevy, I bet
> they would find its a Penda. (What a cooincidence!)
>
> I think it is rather telling that Penda feels the need to hide
> behind this media group. Obviously this crap is so deep that even
> they don't want to be connected to it. Or maybe they thought it
> would look biased if a plastic drop-in bedliner company had an anti
> spray-in website. Well, Penda, how does it look NOW? :-) Not only
> does a plastic drop-in bedliner company have an anti spray-in website,
> but they tried to hide the fact from the world.
>
> Heh - if someone were to use their feedback form to say something
> along the lines of "plastic drop-in liners sound great, where can I
> buy one?" I wonder if they would be directed to Penda? :-)
>
>
> Oh, one last thought - a company which is responsible for this
> sort of duplicity and stupidity sure doesn't deserve any of my money -
> I think in the future if I need an accessory I'll try *real* hard to
> buy from someone BESIDES Penda.
>
>
> --
>
> -Jon-
>
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