Re: air cleaners for 3.9 V6

From: jon@dakota-truck.net
Date: Thu Jun 12 2003 - 23:26:51 EDT


"Edward Falsename" <msnbcnnbcbs@hotmail.com> wrote:

: hello everyone.

: Ive been using a Intense Performance intake for the past 6 months (stage 2)
: and have been very satisfied with it, until the recent rains and floods.
: Intake got wet on several occasions and its got me worried. should i hit
: deep puddle too hard and have the belt fan throw tons of water at an exposed
: cotton filter, and have that water sucked into the engine (unlikely but
: possible)...or should i end up going thru somplace REAL deep...just wanna
: stop thinking...right now...I know a lot of people use these cone filters
: and im curious if any of you have run into these problems with water?
[...]

   
    I don't recall exactly what that intake setup looks like
but they are all pretty similar - it shouldn't be a problem.
Unless you are actually fording water high enough to reach the
intake you will be OK. The filter itself will block a lot of
the water spashed on it, and due to the weight of the water,
there would have to be a lot of it and you'd have to be on
the throttle pretty hard to actually suck a decent amount
into the engine. I would venture to say that it would be
almost impossible to suck in enough water to damage the
engine by merely spashing around in puddles - you actually
have to stick the intake into standing water before that will
happen.
  
   Many turbocharged and supercharged vehicles actually use
water injection to prevent pinging; so getting some water
in the engine actually isn't as big a deal as one might
think. Where water in the engine *does* become a problem
is when you suck in a lot of it - it doesn't compress as
well as air, and will fill up the combustion chambers,
basically making uncompressible space out of space that
the piston expects to be able to compress. This can result
in something as benign as having the engine simply stop
and requiring you to empty the water from the cylinders
before continuing, up to bending rods, shattering the
crank and pistons, cracking the block, etc. But, that sort
of condition doesn't happen until you actually dip your
intake into a pool of standing water like a drinking straw.
[Kind've like a certain '92 Ram did at Daktoberfest 2002
when its stupid owner forgot to remove the intake snorkel
and drove it through a mud pit. Did I say mud pit? It
was actually more like a shallow pond...]

   ANYWAY... During normal driving, any water that actually
manages to make its way up into the engine will simply be
converted into steam in your combustion chambers and sent
on its merry way via the exhaust valves. It might even help
the engine to run a little cooler and give the insides a little
steam clean. :-) If you mangage to get a decent amount of
water in the engine you might notice some steam coming out
the tailpipe, but that's about it.

  If its something that you are worried about, the next time
you are driving around in a heavy rain and spashing through
puddles, take a moment to stop the truck, pull off the intake
and look inside. If the inside of the intake tube is dry you
can be pretty sure there isn't any water getting in your
engine.

: anyway, im looking into a round air cleaner for my 99 3.9l V6 that is
: CONFIMRED to fit. I know the 3.9's TB is pushed farther back into the engine
: compartment near the firewall so that doesnt leave much space for a large
: one, but it would give me more peace of mind and would sure as hell beat
: putting the stock junk back on. just got a 14" air cleaner and it doesnt
: fit. hopefully itll have a nozzle for the driver side valve breather hose
: thingy. if not can someone reccomend a valve breather filter to go with it
: if it doesnt have the hole for it.

   Take a look at the Maintenance, Upgrades, etc. section of the
DML Home Page (www.dakota-truck.net), and check out the "FABM"
install. The truck it shows is a V8 but I *think* (?) the
throttle body on the V6 is in the same basic position, relative
to the cowl so that modification should work on your truck
too. Certainly you should be safe with the 10" version, anyway.
(I'd give ya the direct URL, but I'm on a text only connection
at the moment. You should be able to find it pretty easy from
the home page though.)

-- 

-Jon-

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