I pulled every fuse under in the cab and they were all ok. I checked the
ones in the fuse box under the hood and they were the same, none were
broken.
-Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <bernd@texas.net>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 7:08 PM
Subject: RE: DML: Help! Dead Dakota
>
> Ron,
>
> Have you checked the junction box under the hood (and the in-cab fuse
> box) for the ignition fuse?
>
> - Bernd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Ron
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: Help! Dead Dakota
>
>
>
> I checked the resistance on the new coil. Specs out fine according to
> the book. What is perplexing me is that there is no voltage on the
> leads to the coil. The voltmeter works when I test it across the
> battery. With the ignition on I would think that voltage would be
> present and lack of voltage is indicative of something earlier on in the
> chain not getting voltage. I suppose I need to check to see if the SMEC
> is getting voltage itself. Spending $300 is not my idea of fun.
>
> As to the coil pickup, when I test the coil with the screwdriver up the
> end of the coil wire taken off of the dist. cap, I am before the coil
> pickup stage, while it might need replacing, I should see spark at this
> stage as long as the coil is working, and I don't (with either coil).
>
> I must say that this is kind of frustrating. It will take me about
> 50-60 dollars to have this towed to the shop about 2 miles down the
> street should I choose to do so. If the SMEC is 300 dollars, I just
> might do that since it is cheaper to tow than to buy something that I
> don't need. Funny thing is though if I do need it, I have just added
> the cost of towing and labor.
>
> But I haven't given up yet.
>
> Thanks,
> -Ron M.
> 95 CC V6 Sport
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 4:17 PM
> Subject: RE: DML: Help! Dead Dakota
>
>
> >
> > I vote you try another coil, then the coil pickup, much cheaper.
> >
> > Rascal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Bernd D.
>
> > Ratsch
> > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 5:08 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: RE: DML: Help! Dead Dakota
> >
> >
> > Yes, they do go bad and can fail like what you're describing.
> >
> > Replacements run about $290-$350 depending on dealer.
> >
> > - Bernd
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Ron
> > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 1:51 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: Re: DML: Help! Dead Dakota
> >
> >
> >
> > Replying to myself again.
> >
> > I tried the screwdriver stuck in the end of the coil wire close to the
>
> > engine block. Nothing on either the old or new coil when cranking.
> > Also tried the screwdriver direct from the top of the coil to near the
>
> > block, no spark.
> >
> > I retested the voltage feeding into the coil taking each lead to
> > ground, no voltage.
> >
> > Haynes calls the electronic thingy a SMEC (Single Module Engine
> > Controller). Do these things go bad? Are they expensive? How many
> > vote that I give up and take it to a shop :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Ron M
> > 95 V6 CC Sport
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron" <menoldre@adelphia.net>
> > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 12:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: DML: Help! Dead Dakota
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Okay, today's saga. I bought a voltmeter and checked the voltage at
>
> > > the
> > new
> > > solder/splice and it read battery voltage, so it was a good solder
> > > joint. I then put the two leads into the connector that feeds the
> > > ignition coil. It read zero. I turned the ignition on it still read
>
> > > zero. I had my wife crank the engine and it still read zero.
> > >
> > > Question, is the voltage to the ignition coil a constant voltage or
> > > is
> >
> > > it intermitent as fed by the PCM. If intermitent, or instantanious,
>
> > > would a voltmeter set on DC volts read the voltage?
> > >
> > > Also, can you take the ignition coil and hold the top (where the
> > > spark
> > plug
> > > wire goes) close to ground/engine block and expect to see a spark
> > > when
> >
> > > cranking? I haven't done this yet, but it seems like you should be
> > > able
> > to
> > > do this.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Ron M
> > > 95 CC V6 Sport
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 9:08 PM
> > > Subject: RE: DML: Help! Dead Dakota
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Coil or coil pickup, (in the distributor)...
> > > >
> > > > Rascal
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Ron
> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 8:42 PM
> > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > Subject: Re: DML: Help! Dead Dakota
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am I allowed to reply to my own message :)
> > > >
> > > > Hey, so I finally pulled one of the spark plugs, reattached the
> > > > wire,
> > > wife
> > > > cranked the car and no spark. Went to the store, they thought
> > > > ignition
> > > coil
> > > > and talked me out of cap and rotor. 33 dollars later, still no
> > > > spark.
> > > Next
> > > > trip is cap, rotor, and wires I suppose.
> > > >
> > > > I am thinking I should also buy an ohmmeter and check power to the
>
> > > > coil.
> > > >
> > > > Any other thoughts as it just started raining and the truck is
> > > > outside,
> > so
> > > I
> > > > am in.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -Ron M.
> > > > 95 CC V6 Sport
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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