they did but I though that was for a pre-mag. but not sure.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 9:24 PM
Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>
> Ron, the reality is you're on the fringe with a hotrod Mopar V6 and even
> further out with a blower. Not many options currently available, I'm
> afraid.
>
> However........... :-)
>
> Got some things cooking for the V8 that theoretically could be adapted to
> the V6 if you were willing to tackle some machine work.
>
> Any chance you could track down a single plane aluminum intake for that
> thing? Got any pics of what they look like? I thought MP offered one, but
> it
> looks like it's been discontinued.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of scsilverdak
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:16 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: injectors
>
>
>
> I may (or may not) put my foot in my mouth
> with the following comment........
>
> I have seen the tables for fuel and spark on the stand-alone management
> systems and Yes they are very intimidating to say the least!
>
> I can only imagine what the tables look like on the DC, GM, and Ford stock
> PCM's.........
>
> So a experienced tuner with the software needed to properly tune a
> customer's car or truck would be money well spent......$500.00
> would be a bargain..........
>
> I do have a legit question.......
>
> BUT what do you do when you have an application (Magnum v6) and no one
> currently has a flash?.........and yes, I do know there are somethings
> currently being developed.
>
> Are your only options the dreaded "magic box"
> devices such as Superchips Race ICON or the Apexi A/F controllers, and
> billet FMU's to control the fuel curve?..........
>
> I've had to resort to these help tune my combination and I will need to
> retune soon.
>
> So I'm looking at my options.......
>
> Ron-
> '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> Street ,Strip, and Show
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:14 PM
> Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>
>
> >
> > Yes, you can buy a software tuner like Tweecer for the Fords. But people
> > still are more willing to spend the $500 one time to have an experienced
> > tuner do the tune for them. If you're not familiar with fuel and spark
> > tables(ignoring the dozens of periphery variables), the first time you
> open
> > one up will help you to understand how intimidating they can be. The
> > learning curve is not trivial.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of Chad Evans
> > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:57 AM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> >
> >
> >
> > actually you can get a stand alone system for 800 bucks
> > for mustangs/capri 5.0's
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Work well in what?
> > >
> > > Find me one nationally recognized and respected tuner who likes FMUs
> > > or
> > > "rising rate regulators" as you like to call them. You take your 5L
> > > Mustang
> > > to be tweaked by one of the better tuners(much deeper forced induction
> > > knowledge base) and they'll tell you to lose it before they even touch
> > > your
> > > stuff.
> > >
> > > Reason they suck is they are inconsistent and the computer is
> > > constantly
> > > having to hit a moving target with respect to fuel pressure. Used only
> by
> > > those without any better tools.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of Bernd D.
> > > Ratsch
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:36 PM
> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And contrary to "other opinions"...they do work very well.
> > >
> > > - Bernd
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> > > scsilverdak
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:56 PM
> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, so how about a Boost Proportional Regulator for better fuel
> > > control.......hehehehe!
> > >
> > > http://www.bellengineering.net/fmu2020.htm
> > >
> > > This is what's going to replace the FMU I'm currently running, it's
> > > much
> > > better design and easily adjusts to achieve the fuel curve I need.
> > >
> > > Ron-
> > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:14 PM
> > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Personally I wouldn't put "better" and "rising rate regulator" in
> > > > the
> > > > same sentence, but that's just me ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > > > scsilverdak
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:24 PM
> > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I still need to install a Rising Rate regulator, for better fuel
> > > > control.
> > > >
> > > > I also need to have the PCM flashed for better fuel mapping and to
> > > > fix
> > >
> > > > the timing issues once and for all....
> > > >
> > > > Ron-
> > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:49 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron, the '01 and later stuff idles in closed loop. Another little
> > > > > known twist. That's why it handles the bigger injectors better
> > > > > than
> > > > > the older controllers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > > > > scsilverdak
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm running the Lincoln Navigator injectors (24lb/hr) in my
> > > v6...........
> > > > >
> > > > > No problems at all except it goes full rich at 3800 under boost,
> > > > > but
> > >
> > > > > it idles just fine and doesn't run rich at all at idle.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron-
> > > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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