Ron, the reality is you're on the fringe with a hotrod Mopar V6 and even
further out with a blower. Not many options currently available, I'm afraid.
However........... :-)
Got some things cooking for the V8 that theoretically could be adapted to
the V6 if you were willing to tackle some machine work.
Any chance you could track down a single plane aluminum intake for that
thing? Got any pics of what they look like? I thought MP offered one, but it
looks like it's been discontinued.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of scsilverdak
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:16 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: injectors
I may (or may not) put my foot in my mouth
with the following comment........
I have seen the tables for fuel and spark on the stand-alone management
systems and Yes they are very intimidating to say the least!
I can only imagine what the tables look like on the DC, GM, and Ford stock
PCM's.........
So a experienced tuner with the software needed to properly tune a
customer's car or truck would be money well spent......$500.00
would be a bargain..........
I do have a legit question.......
BUT what do you do when you have an application (Magnum v6) and no one
currently has a flash?.........and yes, I do know there are somethings
currently being developed.
Are your only options the dreaded "magic box"
devices such as Superchips Race ICON or the Apexi A/F controllers, and
billet FMU's to control the fuel curve?..........
I've had to resort to these help tune my combination and I will need to
retune soon.
So I'm looking at my options.......
Ron-
'01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
Street ,Strip, and Show
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>
> Yes, you can buy a software tuner like Tweecer for the Fords. But people
> still are more willing to spend the $500 one time to have an experienced
> tuner do the tune for them. If you're not familiar with fuel and spark
> tables(ignoring the dozens of periphery variables), the first time you
open
> one up will help you to understand how intimidating they can be. The
> learning curve is not trivial.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of Chad Evans
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:57 AM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: injectors
>
>
>
> actually you can get a stand alone system for 800 bucks
> for mustangs/capri 5.0's
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:15 PM
> Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>
>
> >
> > Work well in what?
> >
> > Find me one nationally recognized and respected tuner who likes FMUs or
> > "rising rate regulators" as you like to call them. You take your 5L
> > Mustang
> > to be tweaked by one of the better tuners(much deeper forced induction
> > knowledge base) and they'll tell you to lose it before they even touch
> > your
> > stuff.
> >
> > Reason they suck is they are inconsistent and the computer is constantly
> > having to hit a moving target with respect to fuel pressure. Used only
by
> > those without any better tools.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of Bernd D.
> > Ratsch
> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:36 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> >
> >
> >
> > And contrary to "other opinions"...they do work very well.
> >
> > - Bernd
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> > scsilverdak
> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:56 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, so how about a Boost Proportional Regulator for better fuel
> > control.......hehehehe!
> >
> > http://www.bellengineering.net/fmu2020.htm
> >
> > This is what's going to replace the FMU I'm currently running, it's much
> > better design and easily adjusts to achieve the fuel curve I need.
> >
> > Ron-
> > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > Street ,Strip, and Show
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:14 PM
> > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Personally I wouldn't put "better" and "rising rate regulator" in the
> > > same sentence, but that's just me ;-)
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > > scsilverdak
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:24 PM
> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I still need to install a Rising Rate regulator, for better fuel
> > > control.
> > >
> > > I also need to have the PCM flashed for better fuel mapping and to fix
> >
> > > the timing issues once and for all....
> > >
> > > Ron-
> > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:49 PM
> > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Ron, the '01 and later stuff idles in closed loop. Another little
> > > > known twist. That's why it handles the bigger injectors better than
> > > > the older controllers.
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > > > scsilverdak
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm running the Lincoln Navigator injectors (24lb/hr) in my
> > v6...........
> > > >
> > > > No problems at all except it goes full rich at 3800 under boost, but
> >
> > > > it idles just fine and doesn't run rich at all at idle.....
> > > >
> > > > Ron-
> > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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