i dont understand why you are so emotional about this debate. i mean i dont
even use amsoil, i use mobil 1(which i stated in a previous email). my
whole point has nothing to do with what the best oil is. i was merely
pointing out that your own assumption of: big companies are using a
particular product so its got to be the best thing!; may not neccesarily be
true. i was aiming at the general behavior of big corporations. so thats
right i am making assumptions but so is everyone else, which i also stated
in a previous message when i stated that everything i have read from both
sides on this topic so far has been nothing but speculation. its better to
pay attention to everything that a person says. sorry, im not singing for
amsoil.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
>
> Yeah, Thomas explained, but that is his opinion, nothing more. You again
> assume that Ferrari makes some sweet deal with Mobil One...funny and
> fiction. Why doesn't precious Amsoil make a sweet deal? Lowest
> bidder..what a crock of garbage. Keep trying, maybe you can come up with
a
> believable explanation, so far, you have not and neither has Thomas. Its
> just the usual Amsoil multilevel song of how the automakers all
discriminate
> against them...this is so funny, its laughable.
>
> Rascal
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:05 AM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
>
>
> if Ferrari made a deal with Mobil and then they recommended penzoil, that
> would be bad business, and bad business will not last in the long term.
> Thomas already explained how deals are made.. to the lowest bidder.
granted
> nobody is going to recommend complete garbage because that would put their
> image at risk. mobil wants companies to recommend their product. just
like
> campbells chunky soup likes to have atheletes endorse their product. just
> like nike wants tiger woods to use their golf clubs. its marketing.
>
> btw your little comeback for the 55 cent raise analogy was very
predictable
> but not very productive.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:32 AM
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
>
>
> >
> > I never said they care about me, you made that assumption on your own
and
> > you know what they say about assumptions. Yes, business is business and
> > good business will keep you in business, bad business will not last in
the
> > long term. You still have not explained why Ferrari, Corvette, BMW,
> > etc...would recommend Mobil One.
> > As far as explaining to your boss how 55 cents would not hurt your
> company,
> > well, maybe you are not worth it...hmmm...I dunno, maybe you should ask
> him
> > for yourself.
> >
> > Rascal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:10 AM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> >
> >
> > explain to my boss why giving me a meager 55 cent raise would not hurt
the
> > company. oh.. you must have also missed this part:
> >
> > "you cant look at it from the perspective of
> > 55 cents per vehicle. it is that savings plus whatever other methods
they
> > can come up with to save some money."
> >
> > business is business, and all business cares about is making money. if
> you
> > think they truly care about you at all and what kind of lubrication you
> use,
> > you have some grandiose opinion of yourself. what they are really
caring
> > about is what kind of contract they have with another company, how cheap
> > they can get the job done and the best way to get the most money in
their
> > pockets.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
> > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:25 AM
> > Subject: RE: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 55 cents? Okay, now explain how 55 cents makes such a difference to
> > Ferrari
> > > and BMW who also recommend Mobil One.
> > >
> > > Rascal
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett
> > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:06 AM
> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> > >
> > >
> > > now this makes more sense to me because this is typical behavior of
how
> > > corporations work. one of the key goals of a corporation is to cut
> costs
> > so
> > > they can be competitive in the market and ultimatly lower the price of
> > their
> > > product. using a more expensive oil and raising the price of each
truck
> > by
> > > 55 cents would be the opposite. you cant look at it from the
> perspective
> > of
> > > 55 cents per vehicle. it is that savings plus whatever other methods
> they
> > > can come up with to save some money.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Thomas Mize 3rd" <dakotasport94@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Ok then, lets change tracks for a moment. look at a few models DC
> > > > makes...for example the Dakota...1997-2002 they had decals on both
> > doors
> > > > that said "Dakota Sport" or "Dakota SLT" and on the tail gate there
> was
> > > just
> > > > "DODGE", then comes 2003 they eliminated the ones on the doors and
> just
> > > put
> > > > 1 decal on the tailgate"DODGE" on the left and "Dakota Sport/SLT" on
> the
> > > > right. now just for Shits and giggles they cost $1.50 to produce and
> the
> > > > labor to install each one of them on the truck, now say they build
> > 100,000
> > > > trucks, take $1.50x2=$3.00 X 100,000 trucks how much is that??? it
> > totals
> > > up
> > > > to $300,000 just for a decal on the door to say Dakota. now remove
> both
> > of
> > > > them off of the door and put one on the tailgate...it now costs 1/2
as
> > > much
> > > > to spend...you are down to $150,000 for an ID badge.
> > > >
> > > > Same thing goes for oil in the Viper/Crossfire and any other
vehicles
> > the
> > > > put it in.
> > > > Chrysler puts a bid out for an oil supplier to put a factory fill in
a
> > new
> > > > engine. just say Mobil,Castro,Quaker State submit bids, whom ever
> > submits
> > > a
> > > > lower bid normaly gets the bid. now it also comes down to Quality.
> > > >
> > > > now Amsoil has a diffrent approch to distribiting their products.
> Amsoil
> > > > allows their dealers sell it for them and opperate their dealerships
> for
> > > > themselves. amsoil doesnt have to pay for advertising,shipping and
> alot
> > of
> > > > other expenses. that allows them to spend their expences into
> > maintaining
> > > > there leadership in the industry.
> > > >
> > > > remember....Amsoil has set the standards in synthetic lubricants for
> the
> > > > past 30 years. everyone else follows behind them.
> > > > I will have more info on this subject at a later date.
> > > >
> > > > ====================================
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