Regardless of what you think, I was not being emotional about it either. I
was just logical and pointing out that your assumptions about big
corporations were nothing more that just that...assumptions. How a
corporation thinks, be they big or small, in a general sense is just totally
cost driven and that is only your opinion, one I do not agree with. I do
not think a corporation is inherently evil because it is big or small, or
silly enough to fret over 50 cent differences in oil for engines that they
spend millions of dollars developing. You made statements, I simply
countered them. I was not upset or mad, in spite of what you thought, just
answering your points with my own.
Friends to the end,
Rascal
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 3:41 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
i dont understand why you are so emotional about this debate. i mean i dont
even use amsoil, i use mobil 1(which i stated in a previous email). my
whole point has nothing to do with what the best oil is. i was merely
pointing out that your own assumption of: big companies are using a
particular product so its got to be the best thing!; may not neccesarily be
true. i was aiming at the general behavior of big corporations. so thats
right i am making assumptions but so is everyone else, which i also stated
in a previous message when i stated that everything i have read from both
sides on this topic so far has been nothing but speculation. its better to
pay attention to everything that a person says. sorry, im not singing for
amsoil.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
>
> Yeah, Thomas explained, but that is his opinion, nothing more. You again
> assume that Ferrari makes some sweet deal with Mobil One...funny and
> fiction. Why doesn't precious Amsoil make a sweet deal? Lowest
> bidder..what a crock of garbage. Keep trying, maybe you can come up with
a
> believable explanation, so far, you have not and neither has Thomas. Its
> just the usual Amsoil multilevel song of how the automakers all
discriminate
> against them...this is so funny, its laughable.
>
> Rascal
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:05 AM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
>
>
> if Ferrari made a deal with Mobil and then they recommended penzoil, that
> would be bad business, and bad business will not last in the long term.
> Thomas already explained how deals are made.. to the lowest bidder.
granted
> nobody is going to recommend complete garbage because that would put their
> image at risk. mobil wants companies to recommend their product. just
like
> campbells chunky soup likes to have atheletes endorse their product. just
> like nike wants tiger woods to use their golf clubs. its marketing.
>
> btw your little comeback for the 55 cent raise analogy was very
predictable
> but not very productive.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:32 AM
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
>
>
> >
> > I never said they care about me, you made that assumption on your own
and
> > you know what they say about assumptions. Yes, business is business and
> > good business will keep you in business, bad business will not last in
the
> > long term. You still have not explained why Ferrari, Corvette, BMW,
> > etc...would recommend Mobil One.
> > As far as explaining to your boss how 55 cents would not hurt your
> company,
> > well, maybe you are not worth it...hmmm...I dunno, maybe you should ask
> him
> > for yourself.
> >
> > Rascal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:10 AM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> >
> >
> > explain to my boss why giving me a meager 55 cent raise would not hurt
the
> > company. oh.. you must have also missed this part:
> >
> > "you cant look at it from the perspective of
> > 55 cents per vehicle. it is that savings plus whatever other methods
they
> > can come up with to save some money."
> >
> > business is business, and all business cares about is making money. if
> you
> > think they truly care about you at all and what kind of lubrication you
> use,
> > you have some grandiose opinion of yourself. what they are really
caring
> > about is what kind of contract they have with another company, how cheap
> > they can get the job done and the best way to get the most money in
their
> > pockets.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
> > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:25 AM
> > Subject: RE: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 55 cents? Okay, now explain how 55 cents makes such a difference to
> > Ferrari
> > > and BMW who also recommend Mobil One.
> > >
> > > Rascal
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett
> > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:06 AM
> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> > >
> > >
> > > now this makes more sense to me because this is typical behavior of
how
> > > corporations work. one of the key goals of a corporation is to cut
> costs
> > so
> > > they can be competitive in the market and ultimatly lower the price of
> > their
> > > product. using a more expensive oil and raising the price of each
truck
> > by
> > > 55 cents would be the opposite. you cant look at it from the
> perspective
> > of
> > > 55 cents per vehicle. it is that savings plus whatever other methods
> they
> > > can come up with to save some money.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Thomas Mize 3rd" <dakotasport94@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Ok then, lets change tracks for a moment. look at a few models DC
> > > > makes...for example the Dakota...1997-2002 they had decals on both
> > doors
> > > > that said "Dakota Sport" or "Dakota SLT" and on the tail gate there
> was
> > > just
> > > > "DODGE", then comes 2003 they eliminated the ones on the doors and
> just
> > > put
> > > > 1 decal on the tailgate"DODGE" on the left and "Dakota Sport/SLT" on
> the
> > > > right. now just for Shits and giggles they cost $1.50 to produce and
> the
> > > > labor to install each one of them on the truck, now say they build
> > 100,000
> > > > trucks, take $1.50x2=$3.00 X 100,000 trucks how much is that??? it
> > totals
> > > up
> > > > to $300,000 just for a decal on the door to say Dakota. now remove
> both
> > of
> > > > them off of the door and put one on the tailgate...it now costs 1/2
as
> > > much
> > > > to spend...you are down to $150,000 for an ID badge.
> > > >
> > > > Same thing goes for oil in the Viper/Crossfire and any other
vehicles
> > the
> > > > put it in.
> > > > Chrysler puts a bid out for an oil supplier to put a factory fill in
a
> > new
> > > > engine. just say Mobil,Castro,Quaker State submit bids, whom ever
> > submits
> > > a
> > > > lower bid normaly gets the bid. now it also comes down to Quality.
> > > >
> > > > now Amsoil has a diffrent approch to distribiting their products.
> Amsoil
> > > > allows their dealers sell it for them and opperate their dealerships
> for
> > > > themselves. amsoil doesnt have to pay for advertising,shipping and
> alot
> > of
> > > > other expenses. that allows them to spend their expences into
> > maintaining
> > > > there leadership in the industry.
> > > >
> > > > remember....Amsoil has set the standards in synthetic lubricants for
> the
> > > > past 30 years. everyone else follows behind them.
> > > > I will have more info on this subject at a later date.
> > > >
> > > > ====================================
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> > > > AOL Mess:dktsprt94
> > > > Yahoo Mess:daksprt94
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