i know that generalizing is wrong and thats pretty much what i have done.
but i have based my opinions off of my own experiences with the company that
i work with. i see how they operate first hand. this company is considered
to be a quality leader in their field and charge top dollar for their
product but they dont hesitate to cut cost over what at first glance appears
to be chump change. so in my view its not out of the question. i dont feel
like its a bad thing either. my own personal idea for going to work is to
make money. if i started a business that would be my main goal as well, if
i could help some people along the way that would be wonderful but my bottom
line would be money. but i guess we are wwaaayyy off topic now :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 4:04 PM
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
>
> Regardless of what you think, I was not being emotional about it either. I
> was just logical and pointing out that your assumptions about big
> corporations were nothing more that just that...assumptions. How a
> corporation thinks, be they big or small, in a general sense is just
totally
> cost driven and that is only your opinion, one I do not agree with. I do
> not think a corporation is inherently evil because it is big or small, or
> silly enough to fret over 50 cent differences in oil for engines that they
> spend millions of dollars developing. You made statements, I simply
> countered them. I was not upset or mad, in spite of what you thought,
just
> answering your points with my own.
>
> Friends to the end,
> Rascal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 3:41 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
>
>
> i dont understand why you are so emotional about this debate. i mean i
dont
> even use amsoil, i use mobil 1(which i stated in a previous email). my
> whole point has nothing to do with what the best oil is. i was merely
> pointing out that your own assumption of: big companies are using a
> particular product so its got to be the best thing!; may not neccesarily
be
> true. i was aiming at the general behavior of big corporations. so thats
> right i am making assumptions but so is everyone else, which i also stated
> in a previous message when i stated that everything i have read from both
> sides on this topic so far has been nothing but speculation. its better
to
> pay attention to everything that a person says. sorry, im not singing for
> amsoil.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:22 AM
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
>
>
> >
> > Yeah, Thomas explained, but that is his opinion, nothing more. You
again
> > assume that Ferrari makes some sweet deal with Mobil One...funny and
> > fiction. Why doesn't precious Amsoil make a sweet deal? Lowest
> > bidder..what a crock of garbage. Keep trying, maybe you can come up
with
> a
> > believable explanation, so far, you have not and neither has Thomas.
Its
> > just the usual Amsoil multilevel song of how the automakers all
> discriminate
> > against them...this is so funny, its laughable.
> >
> > Rascal
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:05 AM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> >
> >
> > if Ferrari made a deal with Mobil and then they recommended penzoil,
that
> > would be bad business, and bad business will not last in the long term.
> > Thomas already explained how deals are made.. to the lowest bidder.
> granted
> > nobody is going to recommend complete garbage because that would put
their
> > image at risk. mobil wants companies to recommend their product. just
> like
> > campbells chunky soup likes to have atheletes endorse their product.
just
> > like nike wants tiger woods to use their golf clubs. its marketing.
> >
> > btw your little comeback for the 55 cent raise analogy was very
> predictable
> > but not very productive.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
> > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:32 AM
> > Subject: RE: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I never said they care about me, you made that assumption on your own
> and
> > > you know what they say about assumptions. Yes, business is business
and
> > > good business will keep you in business, bad business will not last in
> the
> > > long term. You still have not explained why Ferrari, Corvette, BMW,
> > > etc...would recommend Mobil One.
> > > As far as explaining to your boss how 55 cents would not hurt your
> > company,
> > > well, maybe you are not worth it...hmmm...I dunno, maybe you should
ask
> > him
> > > for yourself.
> > >
> > > Rascal
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett
> > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:10 AM
> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> > >
> > >
> > > explain to my boss why giving me a meager 55 cent raise would not hurt
> the
> > > company. oh.. you must have also missed this part:
> > >
> > > "you cant look at it from the perspective of
> > > 55 cents per vehicle. it is that savings plus whatever other methods
> they
> > > can come up with to save some money."
> > >
> > > business is business, and all business cares about is making money.
if
> > you
> > > think they truly care about you at all and what kind of lubrication
you
> > use,
> > > you have some grandiose opinion of yourself. what they are really
> caring
> > > about is what kind of contract they have with another company, how
cheap
> > > they can get the job done and the best way to get the most money in
> their
> > > pockets.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:25 AM
> > > Subject: RE: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 55 cents? Okay, now explain how 55 cents makes such a difference to
> > > Ferrari
> > > > and BMW who also recommend Mobil One.
> > > >
> > > > Rascal
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:06 AM
> > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > now this makes more sense to me because this is typical behavior of
> how
> > > > corporations work. one of the key goals of a corporation is to cut
> > costs
> > > so
> > > > they can be competitive in the market and ultimatly lower the price
of
> > > their
> > > > product. using a more expensive oil and raising the price of each
> truck
> > > by
> > > > 55 cents would be the opposite. you cant look at it from the
> > perspective
> > > of
> > > > 55 cents per vehicle. it is that savings plus whatever other
methods
> > they
> > > > can come up with to save some money.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Thomas Mize 3rd" <dakotasport94@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:14 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: DML: RE: Amsoil -Info/Chrysler cost cutting
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok then, lets change tracks for a moment. look at a few models DC
> > > > > makes...for example the Dakota...1997-2002 they had decals on
both
> > > doors
> > > > > that said "Dakota Sport" or "Dakota SLT" and on the tail gate
there
> > was
> > > > just
> > > > > "DODGE", then comes 2003 they eliminated the ones on the doors and
> > just
> > > > put
> > > > > 1 decal on the tailgate"DODGE" on the left and "Dakota Sport/SLT"
on
> > the
> > > > > right. now just for Shits and giggles they cost $1.50 to produce
and
> > the
> > > > > labor to install each one of them on the truck, now say they build
> > > 100,000
> > > > > trucks, take $1.50x2=$3.00 X 100,000 trucks how much is that??? it
> > > totals
> > > > up
> > > > > to $300,000 just for a decal on the door to say Dakota. now remove
> > both
> > > of
> > > > > them off of the door and put one on the tailgate...it now costs
1/2
> as
> > > > much
> > > > > to spend...you are down to $150,000 for an ID badge.
> > > > >
> > > > > Same thing goes for oil in the Viper/Crossfire and any other
> vehicles
> > > the
> > > > > put it in.
> > > > > Chrysler puts a bid out for an oil supplier to put a factory fill
in
> a
> > > new
> > > > > engine. just say Mobil,Castro,Quaker State submit bids, whom ever
> > > submits
> > > > a
> > > > > lower bid normaly gets the bid. now it also comes down to Quality.
> > > > >
> > > > > now Amsoil has a diffrent approch to distribiting their products.
> > Amsoil
> > > > > allows their dealers sell it for them and opperate their
dealerships
> > for
> > > > > themselves. amsoil doesnt have to pay for advertising,shipping and
> > alot
> > > of
> > > > > other expenses. that allows them to spend their expences into
> > > maintaining
> > > > > there leadership in the industry.
> > > > >
> > > > > remember....Amsoil has set the standards in synthetic lubricants
for
> > the
> > > > > past 30 years. everyone else follows behind them.
> > > > > I will have more info on this subject at a later date.
> > > > >
> > > > > ====================================
> > > > > Amsoil Dealer ZO # 388299
> > > > > contact info...
> > > > > ICQ# 121477359
> > > > > AOL Mess:dktsprt94
> > > > > Yahoo Mess:daksprt94
> > > > > ====================================
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> > > > > 1995 Dodge Dakota Sport(RIP)
> > > > > 2001 Chrysler Sebring LX Sedan(1 of 46)
> > > > > 1989 Dodge Daytona (1 of 1,196)
> > > > > 1988 Dodge Daytona Pacifica(1 of 457)
> > > > > 1993 Plymouth Duster (1 of ?)
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