Yes, for the most part that is correct. There are aftermarket MFI and EFI
kits available, but you're better off going carb in that case.
Basically, if you go the route of installing a 360ci/380hp Mopar crate
motor, you're ripping all the computers and harnesses out and starting from
scratch.
Trust me, if you want to go fast with minimal hassle and daily drivability,
a 390 or 408 stroker is the way to go. KRC offers a ready-to-run kit that
will drop straight in and run with stock heads/manifolds/PCM/ignition/etc.
for $3900 +s&h. It's their "tow/RV tune" 408 stroker. This starting point
will build up to a tarmac chewing beast if you want. Here's a great example:
http://www.krcperformance.com/newcontent/richdyno.html
Or, if you want, you can start lurking in the wrecker yards and see what you
can dig up for cheap - time and money are interchangeable ;-).
Show me a Hemi Dak conversion that can kick out those numbers, and by that I
mean -torque- especially, because that's the only way you're going to push a
4000+ lb. vehicle into the mid to high 12s on all motor. I bet the tow/RV
stroker alone would cause you to have to take drugs to wipe the silly grin
off your face after you mash the go pedal...
I'm sure the "Hemi" aftermarket will catch up eventually, but a) I want to
go fast and beat Lightnings -now- dammit, and b) the "Hemi" parts will cost
more because hey, it's a HEMI, so we know we can gouge the Hemi fanboys for
all they've got ;-).
That's my take on it, anyway.
-- JB""garett"" <hiltigarett@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Law15-DAV35Z6rUIlQB0000946e@hotmail.com... > > then i would have to switch over to carb wouldnt i? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net> > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:52 AM > Subject: DML: RE: Re: RE: RE: 5.7 hemi swap > > > > > > Are crate engines out of the question as another alternative? > > > > Rascal > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:24 AM > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net > > Subject: DML: Re: RE: RE: 5.7 hemi swap > > > > > > there is nothing wrong with looking in to it. until someone investigates > > then they dont know about all that. since we are talking about how its > > cheaper/easier to get a 360 and put a stroker kit on it, how much cheaper > is > > it? > > > > pardon my ignorance but what does NGC stand for? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com> > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:11 AM > > Subject: DML: RE: RE: 5.7 hemi swap > > > > > > > > > > I've been fascinated by the way people have swallowed the whole Hemi > deal > > > hook, line and sinker. The marketing people hit a home run with that > one. > > > The new Hemi shares _NOTHING_ with the Hemi of old other than a similar > > head > > > design. I say similar because the new Hemi head isn't fully > hemispherical. > > > Yet everyone seems to be sold on the idea that it's by default going to > > make > > > some enormous HP numbers like the old Hemi. Sorry. It won't. Not for the > > > foreseeable future. > > > > > > It's a sub 300 rwhp motor with an engine controller locked up like Fort > > > Knox. The tricks that companies used to hotrod the computer before > _WILL_ > > > _NOT_ work on this one. Game over. DC has to give you the keys to the > safe > > > or you're not going anywhere with the NGC. Aftermarket engine > > > management....maybe.....some day. The DIY deal is far from prime time > > ready. > > > Bolt it on an older LA motor or something and it sorta makes sense. > > Anything > > > newer and it's a step backwards, IMO. > > > > > > $10K for a kit that'll make your Dakota a high 13 sec or 14 flat truck? > > Why? > > > If it's HP you're after you can have a low 12/high 11 sec screamer for
> > that > > > kind of money with a 360 or a 408. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of Aaron Wyse > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:09 PM > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net > > > Subject: DML: RE: 5.7 hemi swap > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not the point.. Once it has a Hemi in it.. There's no telling > how > > > far it can go. Not to mention, It'll still have a HEMI in it. > > > Aaron Wyse > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John Bell" <john_bell_2@hushmail.com> > > > To: <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net> > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:33 PM > > > Subject: DML: Re: RE: 5.7 hemi swap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Y'know, I'd take a 408 stroker kit over a Hemi swap any day. Less > > > headaches, > > > > more power, and more than likely much cheaper to do / have done. > > > > -- > > > > JB > > > > > > > > ""Bernd D. Ratsch"" <bernd@texas.net> wrote in message > > > > news:005e01c38170$1e587620$020aa8c0@system... > > > > > > > > > > Not to forget the NGC PCM that's required, the BCM, TCM, and the > > entire > > > > > wiring harness. > > > > > > > > > > - Bernd > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net > > > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:15 AM > > > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net > > > > > Subject: DML: 5.7 hemi swap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has anyone actually looked in to doing a 5.7 hemi swap in to a > genIII > > > > > dakota? i really have been thinking about it as a future project > but > > > > > would like to have more knowledge about it before i just jumped in > and > > > > > started doing things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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