those stats gave me goose bumps :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bell" <john_bell_2@hushmail.com>
To: <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: DML: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: 5.7 hemi swap
>
> Yes, for the most part that is correct. There are aftermarket MFI and EFI
> kits available, but you're better off going carb in that case.
>
> Basically, if you go the route of installing a 360ci/380hp Mopar crate
> motor, you're ripping all the computers and harnesses out and starting
from
> scratch.
>
> Trust me, if you want to go fast with minimal hassle and daily
drivability,
> a 390 or 408 stroker is the way to go. KRC offers a ready-to-run kit that
> will drop straight in and run with stock heads/manifolds/PCM/ignition/etc.
> for $3900 +s&h. It's their "tow/RV tune" 408 stroker. This starting point
> will build up to a tarmac chewing beast if you want. Here's a great
example:
>
> http://www.krcperformance.com/newcontent/richdyno.html
>
> Or, if you want, you can start lurking in the wrecker yards and see what
you
> can dig up for cheap - time and money are interchangeable ;-).
>
> Show me a Hemi Dak conversion that can kick out those numbers, and by that
I
> mean -torque- especially, because that's the only way you're going to push
a
> 4000+ lb. vehicle into the mid to high 12s on all motor. I bet the tow/RV
> stroker alone would cause you to have to take drugs to wipe the silly grin
> off your face after you mash the go pedal...
>
> I'm sure the "Hemi" aftermarket will catch up eventually, but a) I want to
> go fast and beat Lightnings -now- dammit, and b) the "Hemi" parts will
cost
> more because hey, it's a HEMI, so we know we can gouge the Hemi fanboys
for
> all they've got ;-).
>
> That's my take on it, anyway.
> --
> JB
>
> ""garett"" <hiltigarett@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Law15-DAV35Z6rUIlQB0000946e@hotmail.com...
> >
> > then i would have to switch over to carb wouldnt i?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
> > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:52 AM
> > Subject: DML: RE: Re: RE: RE: 5.7 hemi swap
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Are crate engines out of the question as another alternative?
> > >
> > > Rascal
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of garett
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:24 AM
> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > Subject: DML: Re: RE: RE: 5.7 hemi swap
> > >
> > >
> > > there is nothing wrong with looking in to it. until someone
> investigates
> > > then they dont know about all that. since we are talking about how
its
> > > cheaper/easier to get a 360 and put a stroker kit on it, how much
> cheaper
> > is
> > > it?
> > >
> > > pardon my ignorance but what does NGC stand for?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:11 AM
> > > Subject: DML: RE: RE: 5.7 hemi swap
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I've been fascinated by the way people have swallowed the whole Hemi
> > deal
> > > > hook, line and sinker. The marketing people hit a home run with that
> > one.
> > > > The new Hemi shares _NOTHING_ with the Hemi of old other than a
> similar
> > > head
> > > > design. I say similar because the new Hemi head isn't fully
> > hemispherical.
> > > > Yet everyone seems to be sold on the idea that it's by default going
> to
> > > make
> > > > some enormous HP numbers like the old Hemi. Sorry. It won't. Not for
> the
> > > > foreseeable future.
> > > >
> > > > It's a sub 300 rwhp motor with an engine controller locked up like
> Fort
> > > > Knox. The tricks that companies used to hotrod the computer before
> > _WILL_
> > > > _NOT_ work on this one. Game over. DC has to give you the keys to
the
> > safe
> > > > or you're not going anywhere with the NGC. Aftermarket engine
> > > > management....maybe.....some day. The DIY deal is far from prime
time
> > > ready.
> > > > Bolt it on an older LA motor or something and it sorta makes sense.
> > > Anything
> > > > newer and it's a step backwards, IMO.
> > > >
> > > > $10K for a kit that'll make your Dakota a high 13 sec or 14 flat
> truck?
> > > Why?
> > > > If it's HP you're after you can have a low 12/high 11 sec screamer
for
>
> > > that
> > > > kind of money with a 360 or a 408.
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of Aaron
> Wyse
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:09 PM
> > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > Subject: DML: RE: 5.7 hemi swap
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's not the point.. Once it has a Hemi in it.. There's no
telling
> > how
> > > > far it can go. Not to mention, It'll still have a HEMI in it.
> > > > Aaron Wyse
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Bell" <john_bell_2@hushmail.com>
> > > > To: <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:33 PM
> > > > Subject: DML: Re: RE: 5.7 hemi swap
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Y'know, I'd take a 408 stroker kit over a Hemi swap any day. Less
> > > > headaches,
> > > > > more power, and more than likely much cheaper to do / have done.
> > > > > --
> > > > > JB
> > > > >
> > > > > ""Bernd D. Ratsch"" <bernd@texas.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:005e01c38170$1e587620$020aa8c0@system...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not to forget the NGC PCM that's required, the BCM, TCM, and the
> > > entire
> > > > > > wiring harness.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Bernd
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> garett
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:15 AM
> > > > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > > > Subject: DML: 5.7 hemi swap
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > has anyone actually looked in to doing a 5.7 hemi swap in to a
> > genIII
> > > > > > dakota? i really have been thinking about it as a future
project
> > but
> > > > > > would like to have more knowledge about it before i just jumped
in
> > and
> > > > > > started doing things.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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