Fellas, fellas, aren't there enough MORE significant things in this world
to get all wrapped around the axle about than this throttle body debate?
We've beat this to death already, and are proceeding to kick the corpse.
C'mon. Let's move on to something positive and constructive. Thanks for the
input from all who contributed to this debate, and let's move on. Best
wishes for the new year !!
Eric Luce
'99 Dak, CC, SLT
5.2L, auto, 2wd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@comcast.net>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: DML: Throttle body..was Ignition coils
>
> Gary, tsk, tsk....I am a much bigger idiot about throttle bodies than you!
> So There!
>
> Rascal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Gary Hedlin
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 9:01 PM
> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> Subject: Re: DML: Throttle body..was Ignition coils
>
>
> HELLO?? MCFLY...ANYONE HOME????
>
> How can anyone in their right mind say that one TB is better than another
> when different engines (depending on the buildup) require different flow
> rates??
>
> Yeah, an F&B may have a higher flow rate, but putting a 52mm on a stock
318
> will kill the low end torque. EVEN AN IDIOT LIKE ME KNOWS THIS!! And if
> you put on a fastman, you'll see a big difference because your using a
> throttle body with the PROPER flow rate.
>
> So why are we even having this debate??? I evidently thought the better
> throttle body was determined by the needs of the engine.
>
> PLEASE let me know if I'm missing something here.
>
>
> --
> Gary Hedlin
> President
> Hedlin Web Designs
> http://www.hedlin.net
>
> Gary's Wisdom- #2
>
> -Don't let incompetent people tell you that you don't know what your
doing.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/3/04 7:21 PM, in article
> DHELJEKAGJCDGEGBEHHJCEOIDMAA.bpracing@worldnet.att.net, ""RayB""
> <bpracing@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > See below....
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: B1LLYW@aol.com
> >>
> >> <snip> I'm not saying you're lying <snip>
> >
> > Which indirectly implies that I am. Why would I? I'm a consumer, not a
> > vendor. FU Bill!
> >
> >> F&B's in the majority of cases, make more hp and more torque than
Fastman
> > units.
> >
> > Based upon what, manufacturer's and vendor's claims and "feel good"
> > customers?
> >
> >> Time after time, I've seen people switch to the billet units. I've
heard
> > them mention how they didn't think there would
> >> be a difference only to remark how much of an improvement it was.
> >
> > More feel good BS. Nobody wants to believe what they bought wasn't
worth
> > the cost. Besides, the F&B is pretty!
> >
> >> I don't recall anyone every going from an F&B to a Fastman because it
was
> > better nor do I recall anyone going from
> >> a Fastman to an F&B and not being impressed.
> >
> > How would they know? I haven't met anyone with a Dakota, Durango or Ram
> who
> > has the track experience or success that I have. Therefore their
> "feelings"
> > don't mean squat when it comes to knowing the "true" value of a
> > modification! (for what it's worth, I have 40+ years of successful
racing
> > and tuning experience. my little 318 is quicker and faster than all but
a
> > couple NA 360 Daks so it appears I must be doing something right.)
> >
> >> If you are happy with your setup, more power to you. That's the most
> > important thing.
> >>
> >> Bill White - http://www.bionicdodge.com
> >
> > No, the most important thing is that consumers have "real world",
> documented
> > experiences to offset the marketing hype so they can make an informed
> > decision. If they choose your brand and are "happy", more power to
you.
> > Just remember, I didn't bash F&B, I merely disputed your marketing
claims.
> >
> > Now if you aren't going to shut up, put up! Rent the track, have it
> prepped
> > properly, bring me your favorite TB and I'll give it it's best shot.
One
> > of us is going to have to eat crow.
> >
> > RayB
> > http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html
> >
>
>
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