Re: Used MP PCM

From: Gary Hedlin (ghedlin@theramp.net)
Date: Thu Feb 19 2004 - 22:29:55 EST


No, youre assuming he didnąt test it agianst the Mopar PCM

On 2/19/04 9:19 PM, in article LAW12-F22QIqrfFz82b00000838@hotmail.com,
""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Ugh, Thats my whole point. You didnt test it against a mopar pcm. You just
> stated you knew a guy who ran a superchips programmer. How does him running
> it prove it works better. I must be slow and missing the logic behind that.
> i guess if he runs it, its gotta be the best. Ron merx scott q and damon
> better go get a superchips tuner I guess...They must be missing out on
> something
>
>
>
>
> Greg Conner
> 1996 RC
> 3.9 hybrid
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:03:17 -0600
>>
>>
>> MY POINT IS YOU ARE WRONG FOR INSINUATING CHAD MADE EITHER A FALSE OR
>> ERRONIOUAS STATEMENT BY CITING AN EXAMPLE WHERE THE SUPERCHIPS OUTPERFORMED
>> THE MOPAR PCM.
>>
>> IS THIS CLEAR ENOUGH???
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/19/04 8:58 PM, in article Law12-F71HxYHLBQhEx00000588@hotmail.com,
>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What point was that again??
>>>
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg Conner
>>> 1996 RC
>>> 3.9 hybrid
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:44:47 -0600
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, make your claims, make a personal attack, and then leave.....
>> Nice
>>>> way
>>>> to prove a point.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/19/04 8:38 PM, in article LAW12-F29GkzMcvsq9I00000661@hotmail.com,
>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesus gary, I really dont want to get back into this but how is
>>>> supplying
>>>>> the email of a guy running a superchips tuner providing facts its
>> better
>>>>> than a mopar pcm.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as the rest, it was sealed with the "right stuff" an extremely
>>>> heavy
>>>>> duty rtv. Its actually fairly widely used as a replacement for the
>>>> plenum
>>>>> gasket. Sorry the inside wasnt mirror polished, i guess you know
>> best.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry I dont post useless BS all the time. I'll try to become
>> more
>>>>> active for ya.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm done with this.......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg Conner
>>>>> 1996 RC
>>>>> 3.9 hybrid
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> j
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:15:11 -0600
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/19/04 7:47 PM, in article
>> Law12-F41hr3y9jkLqP0000032e@hotmail.com,
>>>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "no greg, it is an attack. Siting an example of the product being
>>>> used
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> as hell isn't making a misleading, or erroneous claim."-gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "the superchips works way better than the mopar pcm on a 2000
>>>> r/t."-chad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How is that just siting an example? Looks like its suggesting a
>>>> product
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> me with no back. just beacuse some guy used it that has a 408
>> doesnt
>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> support anything. But whatever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, but you forgot the second part of his statement, in which he
>>>> sites
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> example.... QUOTE: "> >I can give you the email of the guy that has
>> one
>>>> on
>>>>>> his 2000 r/t."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So there YOU go, taking stuff out of context to suite YOUR opinions!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "For the past several months you've been hounding me on AIM for info
>>>> on
>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> both me and chad have been doing.... I knew any info I gave you
>> would
>>>> be
>>>>>>> relayed to someone else. This is nothing but a full blown goddamn
>>>>>> attack,
>>>>>>> and everyone here knows it."-gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you f'n kidding me. LMFAO Do you also have conspiracy theories
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> the government listening in on your thoughts?? Me hounding you on
>>>>>> aim??? I
>>>>>>> think the only time I have corresponded with you via aim in the last
>>>> few
>>>>>>> months was when I was asking to buy back the injectors I had sold
>> you
>>>>>> last
>>>>>>> year since you did not use them. Info relayed to someone else?lol
>> Is
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> some kind of dakota conspiracy theory you thought up? Is KRC, The
>>>>>> Fastman,
>>>>>>> and GS motorsports all listening in on your top secrete dakota phone
>>>>>>> conversations?lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think this is a joke, you've got your head so far up your a$$
>>>> its
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> funny. I do find it funny how KRC is first on that list being youre
>> so
>>>>>> close to them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not attacking anyone, I have no problem with you, chad or anyone
>>>>>> else on
>>>>>>> this list. You need to cool it with the conspiracy theory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No greg, this is not some conspiracy theory... It's just I find it
>> odd
>>>> you
>>>>>> of all people, who hasnąt posted in a long time, come out looking for
>>>> blood
>>>>>> when chad made that post. I simply called you on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I think I might post some pics of that intake manifold you sent
>>>>>>> me....Maybee
>>>>>>> when they see that and what I paid for it, they'll know exactly what
>>>>>> type of
>>>>>>> person you really are."- gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once again, wtf? I sent you a mildly cleaned up manifold. Trimmed
>>>>>> runners,
>>>>>>> opened up bores, and all sandplasted and sealed. You said you were
>>>> very
>>>>>>> happy with it. If you werent I would of taken it back. This was
>> like
>>>> 2
>>>>>>> years ago gary!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, wrong info.... I got that from you in august, not 2 years ago.
>>>> It
>>>>>> was not sandblasted because it still had the gouges from the dremel
>>>> tool
>>>>>> where you did your porting, And yes, it was sealed....but only with
>>>> RTV. I
>>>>>> sure as hell wasn't happy when me & ron opened it up to find the gobs
>>>> of
>>>>>> RTV!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This crap is way more than a personal attack that anything I have
>> ever
>>>>>>> posted. If you need to continue your personal vendetta against me
>> and
>>>>>>> conspiracy theories email me offlist. I dont think this the DML
>> needs
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> craziness cluttering it up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me, starting a personal attack?? The only thing Im doing is
>> defending
>>>>>> myself from one. Or do "conspiracy theories" donąt apply???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dak content.... umm, mine needs a bath.........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg Conner
>>>>>>> 1996 RC
>>>>>>> 3.9 hybrid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:02:37 -0600
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/19/04 1:27 PM, in article
>>>> Law12-F74qceSkScfpV0000321e@hotmail.com,
>>>>>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who else tries to push anything especially without being backed by
>>>> any
>>>>>>>> data?
>>>>>>>>> I dont consider this the proper forum to push ones sales
>> especially
>>>> if
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> is making missleading or uneducated claims to do so. This forum
>> is
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> helping out fellow dakota owners. Providing unbacked or
>> missleading
>>>>>>>>> information about a product because one just happens to sell it or
>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>> money off it isnt what I would consider helping another owner.
>> Not
>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> attack, just my opinion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No greg, it is an attack. Siting an example of the product being
>>>> used
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> as hell isn't making a misleading, or erroneous claim. Just
>> because
>>>>>> theres
>>>>>>>> no dyno graphs proving it, doesn't mean it's misleading. And to
>> add
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> you could even debate the validity of anyone posting dyno graphs,
>>>>>> wether
>>>>>>>> they were modified with photoshop, or if other modifications were
>>>> made
>>>>>>>> prior to the comparison run.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the past several months you've been hounding me on AIM for info
>>>> on
>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> both me and chad have been doing.... I knew any info I gave you
>> would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> relayed to someone else. This is nothing but a full blown goddamn
>>>>>> attack,
>>>>>>>> and everyone here knows it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think I might post some pics of that intake manifold you sent
>>>>>>>> me....Maybee
>>>>>>>> when they see that and what I paid for it, they'll know exactly
>> what
>>>>>> type
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> person you really are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gary Hedlin
>>>>>>>> 98 3.9 RC Sport
>>>>>>>> http://garysdakota.1colony.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>>>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:53:17 -0600
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greg,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How come whenever anoyone else tries to push anything, we never
>>>> hear
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> peep
>>>>>>>>>> from you?? I find it pretty damn ironic....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW: Wheres YOUR proof the Mopar PCM is better??
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Gary Hedlin
>>>>>>>>>> 98 3.9 RC Sport
>>>>>>>>>> http://garysdakota.1colony.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/04 8:52 AM, in article
>>>>>> Law12-F49vjx3zbovr20006c94c@hotmail.com,
>>>>>>>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just because you make more money off a superchips than a mopar
>>>> isnt
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>> to push it on this list. The mopar pcm is the way to go over
>> the
>>>>>>>>>> superchips
>>>>>>>>>>> programmer for all out performance....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Greg Conner
>>>>>>>>>>> 1996 RC
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.9 hybrid
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Chad Evans" <hemidak@msn.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 07:31:14 -0600
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the superchips works way better than the mopar pcm on a 2000
>> r/t.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can give you the email of the guy that has one on his 2000
>> r/t.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> email me off list if you want it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <fasstdak@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:19 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the R/T's come with a standard PCM (nothing fancy about
>>>> them).
>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> used MP PCM, the '99 "may" work, but they changed some of the
>>>> code
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> '00 models and some items may not work. Also, if the VIN has
>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> programmed into the PCM, you're SOL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Bernd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
>>>> andy
>>>>>>>>>> levy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:03 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/18/2004 7:58 PM, Ed Estoppey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | hey all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | I have a chance to get a used Mopar Performance PCM from a
>>>> 1999
>>>>>>>> Dak
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | R/T. Will this work on my 2000 R/T, or will I have to get
>> one
>>>>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my year
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | and Vin??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't the R/T come with an MP PCM out of the factory? Or is
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "above and beyond" one?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -andy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://home.twcny.rr.com/andylevy/dakota -
>> andy-dml@levyclan.us
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