Look, bottom line is that the statement made was opinion. Let's not clutter
up teh DML with a flame war. I run the superschips, I'm happy with it.
Others run the MP and they're happy with it. They both perform their task
well, but being as that no more MP computers are being made, it seems that a
superchips or hypertech programmer is the only viable alternative.
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-- - Josh Lowered 2000 Dakota CC 3.9L www.geocities.com/lenny187/dakota.html www.omg-stfu.com"Gary Hedlin" <ghedlin@theramp.net> wrote in message news:BC5ADB53.1BD0%ghedlin@theramp.net... > > No, youre assuming he didnšt test it agianst the Mopar PCM > > > > On 2/19/04 9:19 PM, in article LAW12-F22QIqrfFz82b00000838@hotmail.com, > ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Ugh, Thats my whole point. You didnt test it against a mopar pcm. You just > > stated you knew a guy who ran a superchips programmer. How does him running > > it prove it works better. I must be slow and missing the logic behind that. > > i guess if he runs it, its gotta be the best. Ron merx scott q and damon > > better go get a superchips tuner I guess...They must be missing out on > > something > > > > > > > > > > Greg Conner > > 1996 RC > > 3.9 hybrid > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net> > >> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net > >> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net > >> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM > >> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:03:17 -0600 > >> > >> > >> MY POINT IS YOU ARE WRONG FOR INSINUATING CHAD MADE EITHER A FALSE OR > >> ERRONIOUAS STATEMENT BY CITING AN EXAMPLE WHERE THE SUPERCHIPS OUTPERFORMED > >> THE MOPAR PCM. > >> > >> IS THIS CLEAR ENOUGH??? > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2/19/04 8:58 PM, in article Law12-F71HxYHLBQhEx00000588@hotmail.com, > >> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> What point was that again?? > >>> > >>> > >>> :) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Greg Conner > >>> 1996 RC > >>> 3.9 hybrid > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net> > >>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net > >>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net > >>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM > >>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:44:47 -0600 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Yeah, make your claims, make a personal attack, and then leave..... > >> Nice > >>>> way > >>>> to prove a point. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 2/19/04 8:38 PM, in article LAW12-F29GkzMcvsq9I00000661@hotmail.com, > >>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Jesus gary, I really dont want to get back into this but how is > >>>> supplying > >>>>> the email of a guy running a superchips tuner providing facts its > >> better > >>>>> than a mopar pcm. > >>>>> > >>>>> As far as the rest, it was sealed with the "right stuff" an extremely > >>>> heavy > >>>>> duty rtv. Its actually fairly widely used as a replacement for the > >>>> plenum > >>>>> gasket. Sorry the inside wasnt mirror polished, i guess you know > >> best. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm sorry I dont post useless BS all the time. I'll try to become > >> more > >>>>> active for ya. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm done with this....... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Greg Conner > >>>>> 1996 RC > >>>>> 3.9 hybrid > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> j > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net> > >>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net > >>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net > >>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM > >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:15:11 -0600 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/19/04 7:47 PM, in article > >> Law12-F41hr3y9jkLqP0000032e@hotmail.com, > >>>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "no greg, it is an attack. Siting an example of the product being > >>>> used > >>>>>> sure > >>>>>>> as hell isn't making a misleading, or erroneous claim."-gary > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "the superchips works way better than the mopar pcm on a 2000 > >>>> r/t."-chad > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> How is that just siting an example? Looks like its suggesting a > >>>> product > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>> me with no back. just beacuse some guy used it that has a 408 > >> doesnt > >>>>>> really > >>>>>>> support anything. But whatever. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yeah, but you forgot the second part of his statement, in which he > >>>> sites > >>>>>> his > >>>>>> example.... QUOTE: "> >I can give you the email of the guy that has > >> one > >>>> on > >>>>>> his 2000 r/t." > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So there YOU go, taking stuff out of context to suite YOUR opinions!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "For the past several months you've been hounding me on AIM for info > >>>> on > >>>>>> what > >>>>>>> both me and chad have been doing.... I knew any info I gave you > >> would > >>>> be > >>>>>>> relayed to someone else. This is nothing but a full blown goddamn > >>>>>> attack, > >>>>>>> and everyone here knows it."-gary > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Are you f'n kidding me. LMFAO Do you also have conspiracy theories > >>>>>> about > >>>>>>> the government listening in on your thoughts?? Me hounding you on > >>>>>> aim??? I > >>>>>>> think the only time I have corresponded with you via aim in the last > >>>> few > >>>>>>> months was when I was asking to buy back the injectors I had sold > >> you > >>>>>> last > >>>>>>> year since you did not use them. Info relayed to someone else?lol > >> Is > >>>>>> this > >>>>>>> some kind of dakota conspiracy theory you thought up? Is KRC, The > >>>>>> Fastman, > >>>>>>> and GS motorsports all listening in on your top secrete dakota phone > >>>>>>> conversations?lol > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you think this is a joke, you've got your head so far up your a$$ > >>>> its > >>>>>> not > >>>>>> funny. I do find it funny how KRC is first on that list being youre > >> so > >>>>>> close to them. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm not attacking anyone, I have no problem with you, chad or anyone > >>>>>> else on > >>>>>>> this list. You need to cool it with the conspiracy theory. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> No greg, this is not some conspiracy theory... It's just I find it > >> odd > >>>> you > >>>>>> of all people, who hasnšt posted in a long time, come out looking for > >>>> blood > >>>>>> when chad made that post. I simply called you on it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "I think I might post some pics of that intake manifold you sent > >>>>>>> me....Maybee > >>>>>>> when they see that and what I paid for it, they'll know exactly what > >>>>>> type of > >>>>>>> person you really are."- gary > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Once again, wtf? I sent you a mildly cleaned up manifold. Trimmed > >>>>>> runners, > >>>>>>> opened up bores, and all sandplasted and sealed. You said you were > >>>> very > >>>>>>> happy with it. If you werent I would of taken it back. This was > >> like > >>>> 2 > >>>>>>> years ago gary! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Again, wrong info.... I got that from you in august, not 2 years ago. > >>>> It > >>>>>> was not sandblasted because it still had the gouges from the dremel > >>>> tool > >>>>>> where you did your porting, And yes, it was sealed....but only with > >>>> RTV. I > >>>>>> sure as hell wasn't happy when me & ron opened it up to find the gobs > >>>> of > >>>>>> RTV!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This crap is way more than a personal attack that anything I have > >> ever > >>>>>>> posted. If you need to continue your personal vendetta against me > >> and > >>>>>>> conspiracy theories email me offlist. I dont think this the DML > >> needs > >>>>>> this > >>>>>>> craziness cluttering it up. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Me, starting a personal attack?? The only thing Im doing is > >> defending > >>>>>> myself from one. Or do "conspiracy theories" donšt apply??? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dak content.... umm, mine needs a bath......... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Greg Conner > >>>>>>> 1996 RC > >>>>>>> 3.9 hybrid > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net> > >>>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net > >>>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM > >>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:02:37 -0600 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 2/19/04 1:27 PM, in article > >>>> Law12-F74qceSkScfpV0000321e@hotmail.com, > >>>>>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Who else tries to push anything especially without being backed by > >>>> any > >>>>>>>> data? > >>>>>>>>> I dont consider this the proper forum to push ones sales > >> especially > >>>> if > >>>>>>>> one > >>>>>>>>> is making missleading or uneducated claims to do so. This forum > >> is > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> helping out fellow dakota owners. Providing unbacked or > >> missleading > >>>>>>>>> information about a product because one just happens to sell it or > >>>>>> make > >>>>>>>> more > >>>>>>>>> money off it isnt what I would consider helping another owner. > >> Not > >>>> an > >>>>>>>>> attack, just my opinion. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> No greg, it is an attack. Siting an example of the product being > >>>> used > >>>>>> sure > >>>>>>>> as hell isn't making a misleading, or erroneous claim. Just > >> because > >>>>>> theres > >>>>>>>> no dyno graphs proving it, doesn't mean it's misleading. And to > >> add > >>>> to > >>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>> you could even debate the validity of anyone posting dyno graphs, > >>>>>> wether > >>>>>>>> they were modified with photoshop, or if other modifications were > >>>> made > >>>>>>>> prior to the comparison run. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> For the past several months you've been hounding me on AIM for info > >>>> on > >>>>>> what > >>>>>>>> both me and chad have been doing.... I knew any info I gave you > >> would > >>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> relayed to someone else. This is nothing but a full blown goddamn > >>>>>> attack, > >>>>>>>> and everyone here knows it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think I might post some pics of that intake manifold you sent > >>>>>>>> me....Maybee > >>>>>>>> when they see that and what I paid for it, they'll know exactly > >> what > >>>>>> type > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> person you really are. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Gary Hedlin > >>>>>>>> 98 3.9 RC Sport > >>>>>>>> http://garysdakota.1colony.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net> > >>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net > >>>>>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM > >>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:53:17 -0600 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Greg, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> How come whenever anoyone else tries to push anything, we never > >>>> hear > >>>>>> a > >>>>>>>> peep > >>>>>>>>>> from you?? I find it pretty damn ironic.... > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> BTW: Wheres YOUR proof the Mopar PCM is better?? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> Gary Hedlin > >>>>>>>>>> 98 3.9 RC Sport > >>>>>>>>>> http://garysdakota.1colony.com > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/04 8:52 AM, in article > >>>>>> Law12-F49vjx3zbovr20006c94c@hotmail.com, > >>>>>>>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Just because you make more money off a superchips than a mopar > >>>> isnt > >>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> reason > >>>>>>>>>>> to push it on this list. The mopar pcm is the way to go over > >> the > >>>>>>>>>> superchips > >>>>>>>>>>> programmer for all out performance.... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Greg Conner > >>>>>>>>>>> 1996 RC > >>>>>>>>>>> 3.9 hybrid > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Chad Evans" <hemidak@msn.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM > >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 07:31:14 -0600 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the superchips works way better than the mopar pcm on a 2000 > >> r/t. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I can give you the email of the guy that has one on his 2000 > >> r/t. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> email me off list if you want it. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <fasstdak@hotmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:19 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DML: Used MP PCM > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the R/T's come with a standard PCM (nothing fancy about > >>>> them). > >>>>>>>> On > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> used MP PCM, the '99 "may" work, but they changed some of the > >>>> code > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> '00 models and some items may not work. Also, if the VIN has > >>>> been > >>>>>>>>>>>>> programmed into the PCM, you're SOL. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Bernd > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of > >>>> andy > >>>>>>>>>> levy > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:03 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/18/2004 7:58 PM, Ed Estoppey wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> | hey all, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> | I have a chance to get a used Mopar Performance PCM from a > >>>> 1999 > >>>>>>>> Dak > >>>>>>>>>>>>> | R/T. Will this work on my 2000 R/T, or will I have to get > >> one > >>>>>>>>>> specific > >>>>>>>>>>>>> | to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> my year > >>>>>>>>>>>>> | and Vin?? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't the R/T come with an MP PCM out of the factory? 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