RE: RE: Diagnostic Port Wiring

From: Bernd D. Ratsch (fasstdak@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu May 27 2004 - 17:42:17 EDT


Yup...Base codes are the same - proprietary are different (and there's quite
a few of them).

As for programming them, without the "unlock" codes (so to speak)...no way,
no how to change the parameters.

- Bernd

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
david.clement@verizon.net
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:06 PM
To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
Subject: Re: DML: RE: Diagnostic Port Wiring

I got my cable from this guy; http://www.obd-2.com/

Part of the OBD-II standard was that the communication protocols can't be
proprietary for the diagnotic functions. All vehicles have to support they
same basic diag codes and the manufactureres are allowed to add addtional
codes but the base codes must stay the same. Getting into the functional
parameters (adjusting timing, A/F mictures, etc) is outside the scope of the
OBD-II requirements and that is proprietary to the manufacturer and this is
where the DRB tool the dealer has comes into play.

The guy listed above was actually on the SAE comittee that came up with the
standard.

Dave Clement
99 SLT+ CC 4x4

In article <c94uoa$gcm$1@bent.twistedbits.net>,
larryathey.nospam@larryathey.com (Larry L Athey) writes:
>
>
> Well $150 is a little more realistic...Where did you get the
> cable/software from?
>
> I'm also curious as to where people actually find information
> regarding
> the pin-outs of these ports and the specifications on the proprietary
> protocol Chrysler uses.
>
> david.clement@verizon.net wrote:
> > I have an adapter cable that connects to the Diagnostic port and
> > serial
port of
> > a laptop.
> >
> > There are three different electrical protocols being used by the
> > auto manufacturers and none are RS232/V.24. To build a cable you
> > need to to have
a
> > transciever that translates the diagnostic protocol to serial (or
> > USB) that your laptop can use. The module in my cable has the
> > capability of
translating
> > all three protocols to serial.
> >
> > The cable was approximately $150 but it also came with a software
> > tool that reads and translates the codes into there definitions, has
> > datalogging capabilities and a dash board feature for real time
> > monitoring of O2
sensors,
> > injectors, speed, throtle position, etc.
> >
> > Dave Clement
> > 99 SLT+ CC 4x4
> >
> >
> > In article <c93j8h$80s$1@bent.twistedbits.net>,
> > larryathey.nospam@larryathey.com (Larry L Athey) writes:
> >
> >>
> >>Eeegads, they're real proud of their stuff. $275 for a complete
> >>package?
> >>Geez, a person could build a serial cable for about $10 to $15 in parts.
> >>
> >>Bernd D. Ratsch wrote:
> >>
> >>>You can actually buy this type of cable already from several
> >>>sources - http://www.obd2.com (is one of them)
> >>>
> >>>- Bernd
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> >>>[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Larry
> >>>L
Athey
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 4:55 PM
> >>>To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> >>>Subject: DML: Diagnostic Port Wiring
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I'm new here, so I'm sure this message has probably been asked and
> >>>answered numerous times. Please forgive me if this is redundant.
> >>>
> >>>Is there any chance at all that I could find out exactly what the
> >>>pin-out assignments are on the diagnostic port on a 99 Dakota? I've
done
> >>>a lot of embedded programming and I've found that a lot of companies
> >>>simply use a 9600 baud 8N1 serial connection on diagnostic ports found
> >>>on everything from network routers all the way down to painfully simple

> >>>things like home appliances.
> >>>
> >>>So, what I would like to do is find out if by chance the diagnostic
> >>>port
> >>>on a 99 Dakota is just a serial connection to the onboard computer. If
> >>>so, I'd like to make a serial cable to connect a laptop computer to it
> >>>with a basic terminal program running so I can see the error codes
> >>>without having to take it to Autozone or a Dodge dealer.



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