I've got to agree with Tom here. I've actually corrected a couple of
salesmen in the drivel they've tried to feed me regarding the Cummins,
especially..."actually, it puts out 505 ft-lbs of torque with a 6-speed, and
only 460 with the auto." (Pre-600 days, of course). I've been itching to
test-drive a 600/6-speed, but nobody has them! "Who needs 600 ft-lbs?" is
probably the mentality of most up here. I've just one answer to that: me!
-Jon
"Terrible Tom" <SilverEightynine@aol.com> wrote in message
news:40D32B2D.4070602@aol.com...
>
> jon@dakota-truck.net wrote:
> > Mike Burgess <mike_burgess@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > : Went to Dodge premier night tonight, and got my silver
> > : eagle.
> >
> >
> > I went to two and got two silver eagles. ;-) Probably
> > not actually worth the time and gas to drive to the dealership,
> > but I had to drop off the CTD for some warranty work on the
> > A/C system at the one dealership, so as long as I was headed
> > in that direction... Plus, they had free food. :-)
> >
>
> mmm free food
>
> >
> > : Also got an earfull of a sales pitch that the 4.7l hemi
> > : has " variable displacement " and if you are cruiseing
> > : level, not demanding much, some cyls shut down and save
> > : fuel?
> >
> >
> > Somebody's all hopped up on crack cocaine. ;-) The
> > sales droid in question has confused the 4.7L (non HEMI)
> > for the 5.7L HEMI.
> >
>
> I have found that every single time i have gone to a dealer - I knew
> more about the cars and trucks on the lot than the guy who was trying to
> sell them to me. I don't think its because the sales guys are morons
> (well most are morons actually) I chalk it up to the fact I am a fanatic
> and eat, sleep, and live Dodge.
>
>
>
> > Speaking of the Magnum, I was actually pretty dissapointed in it.
> > Its got decent looks, but the exhaust note is *way* too quiet,
> > visibility and headroom is somewhat lacking, and its too darn
> > refined. I was expecting a more raw, visceral experience, but
> > it was more like driving grandma's grocery getter. The engine
> > does get the car moving pretty good (although I have to admit,
> > not quite as quick as I would like.) It looks great on paper,
> > but the reality just didn't click with me. :-(
> >
>
> I am waiting for Dodge to bring out a regular sedan or a full size
> coupe. *coughCHARGERcough*
>
> > BTW, I also drove a Crossfire just for the heck of it yesterday.
> > Its not a bad looking car, but very cramped, and as I expected,
> > a bit too gutless for my tastes. When I joked to the sales droid
> > that they should be putting the HEMI into a little car like this,
> > his response was that it got up to 150mph on the autobahn and
> > that the Germans were better than the Americans at getting power
> > out of an engine. He said that I should get on the throttle a bit
> > and I would be impressed with the power. I did, and I wasn't. ;-)
> > Top speed might impress a 10 year old, but on which American road
> > am I going to be able to drive at those velocities? IMHO, its
> > not the top speed that counts - its how quick it gets there. ;-)
> > Unfortunately, I didn't have time to pull the 440 'cuda out of
> > mothballs in time to drive it to the event, so that they could
> > see the type of car they *should* be building. ;-)
>
> I sat in a Crossfire and a Magnum at the 04 Chicago Auto Show. I havn't
> had the desire to test drive either of them since. Both were far too
> cramped for my comfort. (and I'm considerably smaller in size than you
> Jon). I love the looks of both of them - but they are not for me.
> Biggest turn off with the Crossfire is what you experianced first hand.
> ALl the reports I have heard about the Crossfire are that it is low on
> power and performance. If I remember correctly - Jim Mateja (sp?) from
> the Chicago Tribune - who's reviews are on Cars.com - said that the
> "autostick" clutchless manual was very dissapointing. It acted more like
> the 1,2,3,D set up on normal automatics. This being the german design.
> He said it was not the same design as the one used on Intrepid a few
> years back - where the car would actually STAY in the gear you had it
> in. Crossfire will down shift on its own.
>
> I woulda dopeslapped the idiot who claimed that Daimler could erk out
> better power from an engine. He has obviously never been behind the
> wheel of a rear wheel drive american big block. His loss :D
>
>
>
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