RE: The dakota's pinging

From: Bernd D. Ratsch (fasstdak@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Jul 06 2004 - 07:00:31 EDT


Correct - those that you listed do effect timing, but not exhaust temp or
octane (internal detonation).

On the t'stat, you're keeping the engine cooler which does help control
detonation - but also allows for a slightly richer mixture and/or advanced
timing (hotter coolant temp retards timing).

- Bernd

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Eric Huff
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:48 AM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: The dakota's pinging

> > There is supposed to be some automatic adjustment based on
> > temperatures, etc, that would be affected by octane, isn't there?

> Nope...no automatic adjustment unless there are knock sensors involved
> - 3.7L/4.7L/5.7L use these (4.7L uses them since late 2003 on the
> "Next Generation 4.7L").

Ahh, right you are. There's a list of things that affect timing, but not
exhaust temperature like i thought.

The PCM adjusts timing for:

engine coolant temperature
engine rpm
intake manifold temperature
manifold absolute pressure
throttle position

So, i wonder if the 180 thermostat prevents pinging directly because the
temperature is lower (which *would* reduce pinging), or if the lower
temperature causes the pcm to behave differently.

I can't think of why it would retard the timing, but it makes sense (to me)
that it might make the fuel mixture a little richer.

eric

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1974 Valiant 4-door, 318
1999 Dakota Ext Cab, 2WD



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