The stroke is the limiting factor. The 360 is already at a 3.58 stroke,
while the 318 is a 3.31. The 318 cannot be bored out to the same piston
size though due to the smaller piston bore size.
TonyC
-----Original Message-----
From: James Calder <jCalder3@cfl.rr.com>
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Date: Saturday, October 02, 2004 7:56 PM
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Re: 408
>
>
>Thats a very good suggestion Ron. Which brings uo a couple questions:
>Why can a 318 be bored and stroked to a 390 (72 additional cubes) and a 360
>be bored and stroked to a 408 (only 48 additional cubes)?
>Comparing 2 naturally aspired similarily built engins, one a 390 and one a
>408, how much more HP/TQ can be gained from the 408?
>Thanks for your help
>James
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Ronald Taylor
>Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:57 PM
>To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>Subject: RE: DML: RE: Re: 408
>
>
>Jim.....
>
>If I can make a suggestion........To build a 408, you'd need to use a 360
>block and have it bored and machined.
>
>Why Not use the original 318 block and install a 390 stroker kit in it?
>
>You could purchase a quality kit for about what the ported R/T heads run
and
>get the Truck running then go back later and swap the heads out for the
>ported R/T heads...
>
>I'd be more apt to want a good shortblock in the truck that is built solid,
>so I could build on top of that when funds permit.
>
>Just my .02....
>
>Ron
>01' Dakota Sport RC 3.9 ...
>99' Dakota SLT CC 5.2...
>
>
>From: "James Calder" <jCalder3@cfl.rr.com>
>Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>Subject: DML: RE: Re: 408
>Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 07:38:03 -0400
>
>
>I'm in Palm Coast, FL. I need to keep this build inexpensive as possible
so
>I'll probably reuse the lifters, push rods and cam (if it suitable) since
>they have only 5000 miles on them. Regarding the pistons, I would
>defiantly be interested if they are the right ones to use with the build.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Orange383
>Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:21 AM
>To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>Subject: DML: Re: 408
>
>
>Where are you located? Just curious, may be interested in the 318 if it
>stays mostly complete. Also, if you decide to use the MP pistons (.020
>over) I have a brand new set I will probably be selling.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "James Calder" <jCalder3@cfl.rr.com>
>To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 4:37 PM
>Subject: DML: 408
>
>
> >
> > I'm looking into swapping my 318 for a 408. On my current 318 I already
>> have the following parts I will reuse:
> > Jet Hot Coated Doug Thorley Headers, M1 Intake, MSD
ignition/wires/coil,
>> MP PCM, Viper Fan, Underdrive Crank Pulley and accessories (water pump,
PS
>> pump, etc.) > > Opinions on reusing the following:
> > Ported Stock TB
> > KRC Ported Stock Heads
> > Competition Cams 604:lift .512 dur@.050 210, 220 / LSA 112 > FMS 19lb
>injectors > > If I were to get an F&B or Fastman TB, what size should I
go
>for?
> > If R/T Heads were used which ones?
> > Is the MP stroker crank the best deal?
> > Should I get a junkyard block or new? Any ideas on price of a new 360
>
>block?
> > What does it have to be bored out to?
> >
> > Things I know I would need to get (please add to the list):
> > Stroker Crank
> > 360 Block
> > Connecting Rods
> > Pistons
> > Gasket/Bearing Rebuild Kit
> >
> > To help in the suggestions, I do a lot of stop and go driving, tow a 18'
>bow
> > rider (only a few times a year). I don't plan on racing but want to be
>able > to kick but if I do. No blower, turbo or nitrous planned. How
will
>my > current cam perform? Can stock 360 rods be used with the right
>pistons?
> > How do I select the correct pistons?
> >
> > When this is all done, I'll have for sale, a 318 block .030over, crank,
>> pistons, KRC ported heads (if I don't reuse them), comp cam 604 (if not
>
>reused) all with about 6000 miles on them. I bought all the parts from >
>Marty @ KRC a couple years ago.
> >
> > Here's my current setup:
> > 93 CC, 5.2, Rebuilt engine 30 over, 604 Competition Cams:lift .512
>dur@.050 > 210, 220 / LSA 112, Heads Ported/5 angle , 2bbl M1 Intake, Jet
>Hot Coated > Thorley Headers, Ported TB, True Duals w/ FM 70's and Cuda
>Tips, MP PCM, MP > Cast Valve Covers, MP Cast Air Cleaner, K&N Filter,MP
>DRT Chain, MSD 8.5mm > wires, MSD 6T, Blaster coil, Underdrive Crank
>Pulley, APS 46 RH Transmission > w/ All The Options, MP Torque Converter,
>Viper Fan, Lowered 2-3. Energy > Suspension body mounts, A arm bushings &
>sway bar bushings, 4.10's W/ Dana > Spicer Trac Loc, Road Master Active
>Suspension, Doestech Shocks, Front and > Rear Anti Sway Bars, Cowl Hood,
>Sir Michaels Roll Pan.
> >
> > Thanks for any hints, tips and suggestions.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
>
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