RE: RE: knocking after oil change

From: david.clement@verizon.net
Date: Tue Dec 21 2004 - 12:06:13 EST


FWIW, mopar filters are quite often the same FRAM filter that are also branded
as Penzoil or Quaker State. When my son worked for the local Dodge dealer he
used to bring home filters for me. Many were obviously FRAM's others had an
oblong hole that I could not ID the manufacturer of. If you are looking for a
consistently manufacturered filter I would stay away from the mopar brand.

Currently I am using Motorcraft filters (they have been rebranded Purolator for
the last couple of years). FL300 on the Dakota (no room for the FL1A), FL1A on
the Barracuda and FL400 on the PT. Less than $3 at Wal-Mart.

Dave Clement

In article <BAY101-DAV10D3D1730E073B1C4958AAD2A30@phx.gbl>,
fasstdak@hotmail.com ("Bernd D. Ratsch") writes:
>
> Honestly, try to stay away from the Pennzoil (and other lower grade)
> filters. The anti-drainback valve is either sub-standard or they have holes
> drilled in the base to allow for "quicker oil flow" (unfiltered at that).
> The Mopar filter is seriously one of the best out there. We see too many
> "knocking on cold start" problems. We install the Mopar filter and it goes
> away (even happened to me - used to run Mobil-1 and they're an excellent
> filter as well).
>
> The other item could also be grundge in the oil pickup.
>
> - Bernd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Eric Huff
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 10:09 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: knocking after oil change
>
>
> > What oil filter are you using?
>
> This one is Penzoil PZ-34. I have used the same kind before, but not in the
> last few changes.
>
> In case i wasn't clear enough, it doesn't do it at each start, it just did
> it when i first started it up after i filled it up with new oil.
>
> I did fill the filter with oil once before installing it. ("once"
> meaning i poured oil in until it came to the top, but didn't keep filling as
> the oil soaked into the filter.)
>
> Pretty much my normal procedure. It might be that i usu get more oil in the
> filter, but not drastically more.
>
> The last oil change was done at the dealer, so it's possible that the sound
> creeped up in 2 steps.
>
> Thanks,
> eric
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Eric
> > Huff Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 8:28 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: DML: knocking after oil change
> >
> >
> > After changing the oil on the dakota, i started it.
> >
> > I am used to a little "clacking" that i assume is lifters waiting to
> > get oil, but this time i heard "knocking" sounds that seemed louder
> > than i remember (and deeper than the clacking).
> >
> > Any idea what this is a sign of?
> >
> > I used valvoline 10W30 like usual (though whenever i happen to get the
> > oil changed with warranty work, they use penzoil, i think).



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