RE: RE: knocking after oil change

From: Bernd D. Ratsch (fasstdak@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Dec 21 2004 - 21:11:00 EST


Several years ago at that.

- Bernd

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Pindell,
Timothy
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 1:17 PM
To: dml@dakota-truck.net
Subject: RE: DML: RE: knocking after oil change

Consider the following:
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

I'm sure that at some point this link has been posted, but in light of the
recent discussion, I believe that it may deserve a repeat. This guy
dissected quite a few filters for this study. The results are enlightening.
There is significant variance with regard to internal design and
manufacture.

Tim

#-----Original Message-----
#From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net [mailto:owner-dakota-
#truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of david.clement@verizon.net
#Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:06 PM
#To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
#Subject: RE: DML: RE: knocking after oil change # # #FWIW, mopar filters
are quite often the same FRAM filter that are also #branded #as Penzoil or
Quaker State. When my son worked for the local Dodge dealer #he #used to
bring home filters for me. Many were obviously FRAM's others had an #oblong
hole that I could not ID the manufacturer of. If you are looking for #a
#consistently manufacturered filter I would stay away from the mopar brand.
#
#Currently I am using Motorcraft filters (they have been rebranded Purolator
#for #the last couple of years). FL300 on the Dakota (no room for the FL1A),
FL1A #on #the Barracuda and FL400 on the PT. Less than $3 at Wal-Mart.
#
#Dave Clement
#
#In article <BAY101-DAV10D3D1730E073B1C4958AAD2A30@phx.gbl>,
#fasstdak@hotmail.com ("Bernd D. Ratsch") writes:
#>
#> Honestly, try to stay away from the Pennzoil (and other lower grade) #>
filters. The anti-drainback valve is either sub-standard or they have
#holes #> drilled in the base to allow for "quicker oil flow" (unfiltered at
that).
#> The Mopar filter is seriously one of the best out there. We see too many
#> "knocking on cold start" problems. We install the Mopar filter and it
#goes #> away (even happened to me - used to run Mobil-1 and they're an
excellent #> filter as well).
#>
#> The other item could also be grundge in the oil pickup.
#>
#> - Bernd
#>
#> -----Original Message-----
#> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
#> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Eric Huff
#> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 10:09 PM #> To:
dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net #> Subject: Re: DML: RE: knocking after oil
change #> #> #> > What oil filter are you using?
#>
#> This one is Penzoil PZ-34. I have used the same kind before, but not in
#the #> last few changes.
#>
#> In case i wasn't clear enough, it doesn't do it at each start, it just
#did #> it when i first started it up after i filled it up with new oil.
#>
#> I did fill the filter with oil once before installing it. ("once"
#> meaning i poured oil in until it came to the top, but didn't keep filling
#as #> the oil soaked into the filter.) #> #> Pretty much my normal
procedure. It might be that i usu get more oil in #the #> filter, but not
drastically more.
#>
#> The last oil change was done at the dealer, so it's possible that the
#sound #> creeped up in 2 steps.
#>
#> Thanks,
#> eric
#>
#>
#> > -----Original Message-----
#> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
#> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Eric #> >
Huff Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 8:28 PM #> > To:
dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net #> > Subject: DML: knocking after oil change
#> > #> > #> > After changing the oil on the dakota, i started it.
#> >
#> > I am used to a little "clacking" that i assume is lifters waiting to #>
> get oil, but this time i heard "knocking" sounds that seemed louder #> >
than i remember (and deeper than the clacking).
#> >
#> > Any idea what this is a sign of?
#> >
#> > I used valvoline 10W30 like usual (though whenever i happen to get the
#> > oil changed with warranty work, they use penzoil, i think).



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