Re: Re: Re: RE: Cruise Control shut off with Manual Transmission

From: BlackDak93 (sbarnett56@adelphia.net)
Date: Tue Feb 15 2005 - 20:34:30 EST


I would expect that too, execept that on the '93 and '94 there is no clutch
switch. The Park/Neutral connection on the PCM is permanently grounded. Even
on the '95, the manual shows a clutch safety switch but there is no
connection to the cruise control. It only grounds the Park/Neutral line on
the PCM when you depress the clutch pedal. That is what puzzles me.

""Jon"" <jonram2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cutmug$uuj$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
>
> Personally, I'd expect a relay wired into the clutch position safety
> switch
> (I believe this is technically called a "Neutral safety switch," but I
> refuse to call it that since with a manual, this particular switch has
> _nothing_ to do with the transmission).
>
> I can't substantiate this, since neither of my Dodges have cruise.
> They're
> both manuals, though ;)
>
> Yeah. I'll go away now....
> ""BlackDak93"" <sbarnett56@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:curtkl$fr0$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
>>
>> OK, I got that from my manual, but that doesn't explain how the cruise
>> control shuts off when you depress the clutch pedal.
>>
>>
>> ""Bernd D. Ratsch"" <fasstdak@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:BAY101-DAV1115761366AF25342EF061D26A0@phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>> The Cruise Control system is controlled via the PCM and the Stop Lamp
>>> Switch
>>> (via ABS module) - White/Pink Wire.
>>>
>>> The PCM circuit is the VSC ON/OFF Switch Sense (Yellow/Red) and Stop
>>> Lamp
>>> Switch Sense (White/Pink).
>>>
>>> There are also two different stop lamp switches for the Dak (with and
>>> without VSC - Vehicle Speed Control).
>>>
>>> - Bernd
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>>> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of BlackDak93
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 1:09 PM
>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>>> Subject: DML: Cruise Control shut off with Manual Transmission
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how the cruise control shuts off when you depress the
>>> clutch on a Gen II Dakota with manual transmission? I have searched all
>>> the
>>> FSM schematics for 93-95 Daks and there is not even a switch on the
>>> clutch,
>>> except for the clutch safety switch on the '95, nor is there any input
>>> to
>>> the PCM except the ON/OFF switch, and the brake light switch. The '93
>>> and
>>> '94 don't even have a clutch safety switch for starting the engine. The
>>> line
>>> is simply grounded all the time. Does the PCM sense the increase in
>>> engine
>>> RPM or what?
>>>
>>> The reason I'm curious is because I have a MP-PCM part number 5249516,
>>> which
>>> is the PCM for both '92-and '93 - 5.2L Daks. It is listed as the number
>>> for
>>> both automatic and manual transmissions even though the 5.2L was not
>>> offered
>>> with a manual in '92 or '93. When I use this MP PCM I have to disconnect
>>> the
>>> Park/Neutral switch line from pin 30 on the PCM to get my cruise control
>>> to
>>> work, but then it won't disengage with the clutch. I am just curious how
>>> the
>>> normal PCM knows when you depress the clutch pedal without any kind of
>>> switch? I could hook up a switch to my clutch pedal and run it to pin 30
>>> on
>>> the PCM, but I want to understand how it is supposed to work.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



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