Re: DML BBQ Paintball

From: Josh Battles (josh@omg-stfu.com)
Date: Thu May 05 2005 - 19:16:24 EDT


Jon wrote:

> Just by way of an update, I have a 50lb CO2 tank sitting in the
> barn, as well as a fill station and scale - everything we need to
> fill our own CO2 bottles for paintball guns. If you run HPA, then
> I guess you're on your own. :-)
>
> Anyhoo, just wanted to let everyone know; looks like paintball
> on some level will be happening at the BBQ. So bring 'em if you've
> got 'em! (If you don't got 'em, maybe you should get 'em!) ;-)
>
> (Either that or we'll need to invent some games that can involve
> people without guns. You'd probably want a face mask at the very
> least though if you are going to be in a position where you can
> get shot...)
>

Here's a FAQ that I pulled off of an forum I participate in regularly.

Paintball is a fast paced sport that started in the 1980’s. I don‘t feel
like giving you the complete history from green gas all the way up to
Constant Air and Electro Markers. Suffice it to say that paintball is
played in countries around the world: United States, Russia, Australia,
Mexico, and England to name a few.

What do I need to play Paintball?

First and foremost is a FACE MASK!!! I can’t stress safety enough. It’s
important to have eye protection. Why you ask? A paintball ideally
travels between 280 and 300FPS (feet/second) on regulated fields. When
players get together and play outlaw ball (No sanctioned field with refs
and chronos) it’s possible for them to travel in excess of 450FPS. So
please protect your eyes and the reputation of our sport. Another piece
of safety equipment would be the barrel sock or barrel plug. These are
to avoid any physical or property damage from an accidental discharge
outside of the playing area.

Secondly you’ll need a Marker (paintball gun) these can range anywhere
from mild to wild. The old adage holds true to paintball as with any
other hobby. “You wanna play you gotta pay.” Markers start as low as
$50(check EBay and www.actionvillage.com to name a few) and go all the
way up into the thousands.

You’re going to need something to hold your paintball in, 140 round pods
(tubes) and some sort of harness you can see what they look like at
www.redzcomfort.com

You’ll need some form of air to charge the marker either CO2 for those
on a budget, or H.P.A. (high pressure air) for those who want the finer
things in paintball.

You’ll also need something to hold your paintballs in its called a
Hopper, Loader but it sits on top of your paintball and uses gravity
(not true in all cases) in most cases to keep your paintball gun loaded
with ammunition.

Also bring with you some comfortable shoes with ankle support as most
fields are rough terrain it’s very easy to sprain or twist an ankle. You
should also bring pants and a long sleeve t-shirt that you won’t mind
getting dirty in.

Keep in mind these are just the very basics of what you’ll need.

What kind of Marker should I buy?

This is a question that’s always asked, and hardest to answer. There are
many aspects and a lot of research that must go into this question
before a solid answer can be given. You need to ask yourself several
questions before you can come up with the best answer for you.
• How often do I go to play?
• How much do I have to spend?
• Do I want mechanical or do I want electro?
• Do I want to use CO2 or N2?
• Do I want open or closed bolt?
• Am I mechanically inclined enough to get something that’s very complex?
• Am I just a rec player or do I want to go up to a tournament level?

How often you play is a big determinant since if you only go once a
month there may not be a reason for you to buy a $1500 marker when you
can get away with a $300 marker. What does your budget look like? Do you
have a good paying job with disposable income or will you likely be
begging, borrowing or stealing to get this paintball gun? Do you want
your gun to work on the sear and spring principle, or do you want it to
be like a giant switch?

CO2 and N2 are a big part of the paintball gun so I’ll talk about those
separately from the rest. CO2 stands for Carbon Dioxide (Sometimes
called dirty gas) CO2 is an inexpensive way of getting a lot of air for
your paintball gun. The typical paintball gun can go a whole day on only
20oz of CO2 (over 1000 shots). This gas is cost effective and easily
accessible at most major fields and works on almost any low end and most
mid range paintball guns. Now for the downside to CO2, CO2 is actually a
liquid that needs to be charged into gas in order to go through a
paintball gun. This being the case, the temperature plays a major part
in how CO2 works. The colder the tank gets the less efficient your
marker will be. Once your tank gets cold enough your gun will take in
liquid CO2 and jam up until it warms up again. So if you live in a cold
area 50* and bellow you probably don’t want CO2. Though they’ve taken
steps to prevent this with Anti-Siphon tanks no plan is full proof. With
CO2 you’ll notice erratic shot drop off and poor accuracy. HPA is a more
consistent type of gas, since its composed of roughly 80% nitrogen
there’s no need to worry about it freezing the internals of your marker
and freezing it up. Most HPA tanks are regulated to somewhere between
400psi and 850psi. This means that no matter what your gun will ideally
put out that much pressure with only a small ± factor. This creates more
consistency shot to shot. The downside to HPA is that is very expensive
tanks start at $100 and go upwards of $400.

The difference between an open bolt marker and closed bolt marker is
simple. Think of a semi-auto pistol. Regularly it cycle starts with the
slide forward, you pull the trigger the slide goes back and then slides
forward again, that is the action of a closed bolt marker. Start
forward, slide back (load ammunition), slide forward (fire round). An
open bolt marker is the exact opposite. Start back (load ammunition),
slide forward (fire round), slide back (reload). Some would argue that a
closed bolt style marker (i.e. Autocockers) is far more accurate than
open bolt markers (most other markers) but I’ve not done any tests myself.

Autocockers for example need to be mechanically timed in order to fire
properly. Other markers require that you take them apart every so many
shots and after each time you play in order to clean and in some cases
lubricate the moving parts. Are you confident with your skills of taking
apart and putting back together things that have springs, screws, sears,
bearings in some cases, and triggers?

Once you’ve answered these questions you can start to make a decision as
to which way you want to spend your money. Once you’ve decided which way
to go its time to start researching the markers in your given range. You
can check out www.pbreview.com to get reviews from people who actually
use the products and get an idea of how much it costs. The biggest
suggestions I can give once you’ve narrowed down your choices go to your
local field and see if someone has the gun you want, ask them if they’d
be willing to let you put a few rounds through it to see how it shoots.
Also make a trip to the local paintball shop and see if they have one so
you can hold it and feel how it sits in your hands.

So these things shoot paintballs right, well what exactly is a ‘paintball’?

Those little roundish balls your shooting don’t actually contain paint.
That nasty tasting substance (Yes I have unfortunately tasted a
paintball before) is actually vegetable syrup and dye mixed together and
sealed in a gelatin capsule. The original paintball was first made by RP
Schere. They were (or still are I’m not quite sure on that) originally a
pharmaceutical company. The contents of a paintball are non-toxic,
though their taste would make you think otherwise. Its also washable
though sometimes it does stain. Some paints actually contain a little
bit of iodine in them to make wiping, a form of cheating by which a
player wipes paint off themselves to make it look like they were never
hit, more difficult.

How dangerous is paintball?

Paintball is as dangerous as any other sport, if not played within the
rules it’s very easy for someone to get injured. This is why all
professional fields require you to wear a face mask. Again I can’t
stress enough that a mask is probably the most important part of any
paintballer’s gear. Outside of that the most common injuries seen on
paintball fields end up being sprained or twisted ankles and knees.
Though just as in any other sports it is possible to break bones or tear
things that your body needs. Please consult a physician before
undertaking a strenuous activity such as paintball.

Does it hurt to get shot with a paintball?

I can tell you “no it doesn’t hurt that bad” till I’m blue in the face
but nothing will make up for the actual experience of being shot with
one for the first time. It’s kind of startling at first, and it smarts
for a few seconds then you realize its not that bad to get shot with a
paintball unless you’re a complete sissy.

Ok, I’ve bought all my gear, I have a MASK, marker, and paintballs
harness and I want to go paintballing what do I do?

Ok, now you need to find your local field, and find out what it costs. I
won’t lie to it its not going to be cheap for a day of paintball. I’ve
spent as little $40 as much as $120(I had a break down and a repair).

The good fields will have more refs, smaller games and less wait time.
Find out if you can bring your own paint, or if you need to buy field
paint. If you need to buy field paint, watch out its going to be
expensive as hell.

Now that you’ve got the costs settled, its time to look at what to take.
Keep in mind games last usually from 8am to 4pm so you’re going to be
there pretty much all day unless you leave early.
• Paintball Equipment (Mask, marker, barrel sock or barrel plug air
container, hopper, pods and harness)
• Paintballs if you can bring your own otherwise its field paint.
• Comfortable shoes with ankle support (or cleats depending on terrain)
• ID for proof of age (If you’re under 18 you’ll need to have a parent
sign off for you.)
• A lunch if you don’t want to go buy your own from somewhere
• Plenty of water (paintball takes place mainly during the summer months
where dehydration can become a real issue if you’re not careful)
• A change of clothes unless you like having paint and all over your car
• Money and a cell phone for emergencies.

Common Problems you’ll run into at the field with your marker

Problem: Can’t get the FPS down to an acceptable level
Solutions:
• Turn your velocity screw all the way down.
• Get an inline regulator and use it
• Cut the velocity spring 1 ring at a time.
Becareful when turning your velocity screw, as not all models work the
same (i.e. Tippmann) when doing any adjustments on your marker make sure
you read the manufacturers instructions on how to do it.

Problem: Paint keeps breaking in my barrel
Solution: Get a larger bored barrel for a better paint match. Unscrew
the barrel and run your pull thru squeegee through the barrel (On field
fix) Once the game is over, take the barrel off and clean it completely
with water, run the squeege through and dry completely, then recheck
chrono. Also check to make sure the timing on your bolt is accurate that
may be another cause.

Problem: Paint keeps breaking in my breech
Solutions:
• Stop buying seconds at the shop
• Get a motorized hopper to keep up with your finger
• Check your gun’s eyes or anti-double feed system

Problem: My paint keeps hooking and I can’t shoot straight
Solution: Stop Using Rentals, Get better paint, get a better barrel, or
get a better marker (in that order.)

Problem: My gun isn’t shooting.
Solution: Turn it on, Un-safe it, Turn your air on if you're using N2
and an on/off with it. If those don't work you'll need to step off the
field and do some further trouble shooting, something may have happened
to your trigger/sear mechanism, or your solenoid may have broken(on
electros). Also with electros check to make sure that your batter has a
charge, it may be that its discharged and you need to recharge it.

These are just some common problems you might run into on the field the
solutions I’ve given are from personal experience alone. If you are
afraid or unable to field strip your paintball gun, do not attempt it,
you’ll end up doing more harm than good. Take it to the field shop and
tell them, or leave for the day and go to your local pro-shop and have
them trouble shoot it.

Useful links:
www.warpig.com
www.actionvillage.com
www.generaljoes.com
www.pbreview.com
www.pbnation.com
www.automags.org/forums

Manufacturer links:
www.worrgames.com (Autocockers)
www.tippmann.com (Tippmann)
www.kingman.com (Spyder/Raven)
www.wdp.tv (Angel)
www.dyepaintball.com(Matrix, DM4, DM5(coming soon) and Proto)
www.boblong.com (Intimidator AKA Timmy)
www.smartparts.com (Impulse/Shocker attempted Monopoly shens)
www.airgun.com (AutoMag, E-Mag)
http://www.icdpaintball.com (BKO, Bushmasters (B2Ks), and Freestyles)
www.redzcomfort.com (Redz Harness and Pods)

Thanks go out to Plazmattack for letting me steal this.
Here's a link to the FAQ thread:
http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=463192
Granted, genmay is full of rifraf, but the subforums are actually very
well moderated and contain a great deal of excellent information and
knowledgeable people.

-- 
- Josh
Lowered 2000 Dakota CC 3.9L
Above Statement Not True    ^^^^^
www.omg-stfu.com



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