there is no more video up to look at. It has been taken down due to
copyright infringement or so they say.!!
>From: "Rick Barnes" <rascal@scrtc.com>
>Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>Subject: RE: DML: RE: stickers = street racer
>Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:16:35 -0600
>
>
>All good points Jon. I wonder if they take into account that many
>modifications that we do to our cars/trucks improve performance, give us
>better gas mileage, and reduce emissions. They want us all driving stock,
>little bicycles...
>
>Rascal
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
>jon@dakota-truck.net
>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:45 AM
>To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>Subject: Re: DML: RE: stickers = street racer
>
>
>"Andy Levy" <andy.levy@gmail.com> wrote:
>: On 3/14/06, Rick Barnes <rascal@scrtc.com> wrote:
>:>
>:> Gustapo! California Department of Automotive Repair? Man, California
>is
>SO
>:> screwed up. No wonder its population is actually going down...the guy
>is
>:> doing nothing wrong, not speeding, driving dangerously, just minding his
>own
>:> business and gets pulled over and picked on. Reminds me of my days as
>an
>:> old biker when cops just pulled us over to hassle us. They won't do it
>:> anymore cause so many attorneys ride Harleys now. Oh yeah, I was a
>Miami,
>:> FL cop at one time....never did this crap to anyone. Its just another
>way
>:> to screw with people and generate revenue. How does Leno get away with
>:> driving his Toronado?
>
>
> Because he's rich and influential? ;-) Actually, that car might be
>old enough to be exempt from the emissions requirements and such, but
>it still illustrates how stupid the laws are.
>
>
>: Keep in mind that this is a training video.
>
>
> Which is a scary thought in itself. ;-) Oh, and could they have
>picked an actor who was more mis-matched to his car? I think this video
>was probably the first time the guy has ever even sat in an import. :-)
>Speaking of which, if this car had all these illegal modifications to it,
>why do the cops get to drive it on the street to make the training film?
>Was the street shut down to all other traffic, and did they obtain the
>proper permits to film and operate an illegal vehicle on a public street,
>hmmmm? Kinda makes me wonder where the car came from in the first
>place. What do you suppose are the odds that it was impounded (stolen)
>from a US citizen?
>
>
>: The officer pulled the car over initially for a true violation - CA
>: law (like many states) requires both front and rear plates, the car
>: only had a rear. Pretty low on the scale of offenses, but it's still
>: a violation. He then uses this opportunity to find other possible
>: violations. *This happens all the time*. A broken taillight is an
>: excuse to check an otherwise normal driver for drunk driving. And so
>: on.
>
>
> Yep, I don't recall the exact terminology now but I think it is
>something like "primary" vs "secondary" enforcement? The secondary
>items aren't enough to be able to pull somebody over for, but if
>you've pulled them over for a primary violation, you can ticket them
>for the secondary stuff too. In NY, I think seat belts used to be
>secondary but now they are primary.
>
> I definitely see Rascal's point though - the only "true" reason to
>pull this guy over is to harrass him, feed your superiority complex and
>extort money. Here's a thought, maybe this wiener should spend a
>little less time harrassing people who are minding their own business
>and not hurting anybody and spend a little more time going after people
>like, oh, I dunno, murderers, rapists, terrorists and stuff... I guess
>things run so perfectly in California that this is all they have to
>worry about? ;-)
>
>
>
>: The real question is, was the driver legally required to submit to the
>: search, or could he have refused?
>
>
> Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. Seems like having the guy
>pop the hood constitutes a search. In the video, when the guy required
>a warrant before the officer could look under the hood, they placed him
>under arrest. (Which is basically the only way to proceed if the
>officer wants to pursue this - you can't detain somebody without cause,
>so at that point they'd either have to let him go with the license plate
>ticket or place him under arrest.) They implied that they had the
>authority to check under the hood to ensure compliance. I can see both
>sides of this one - I can see how they would need to be able to check
>under the hood if it is their job to ensure the vehicle meets the legal
>specs, but it still seems a bit far reaching. I believe there are laws
>about not being able to search the interior of the vehicle unless the
>officer sees something out in the open. Doesn't seem right that this
>same protection wouldn't extend to under the hood. It doesn't seem
>like the police should be concerned with emissions stuff anyway,
>safety equipment yes, but emissions should be handled by the inspection
>stations. And of course, the laws mean very little once you get into
>the courtroom. The gov't can make any law that it wants to, wether it
>is ultimately upheld by the courts and the people is another story.
>(Although I have to admit that it seems relatively few laws are sucessfully
>challenged. Thousands upon thousands of blatantly unconstitutional laws
>remain on the books, unchallenged or upheld due to ignorance, corruption
>and greed.) :-(
>
>
> At any rate, this sort of crap really burns me up. "Adjustable
>timing is illegal, this hose isn't correct, etc." At what point do
>you cease to be a citizen and become a subject? These days, that point
>is a bit too close for comfort, IMHO.
>
>
>--
> -Jon-
>
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