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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:49:46 -0500 (EST)
From: "Miles D. Oliver" <moliver@mmoliver.org>
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
cc: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
Subject: Re: DML: RE: RE: RE: Valvoline ATF+4 at Autozone.
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This is a very confusing page.
1989 - 2004 (AN) Dakota
1998 - 2003 (DN) Durango
A new transmission fluid (ATF+4 - Type 9602) has been developed and is
being used as factory fill for all vehicles with Chrysler automatic
transmissions.It is recommended that all vehicles with Chrysler automatic
transmissions EXCEPT FOR THOSE LISTED ABOVE be serviced with ATF+4.
Both of my vehicles are listed, and if I read this right.
"EXCEPT FOR THOSE LISTED ABOVE be serviced with ATF+4"
Means that since my vehicles are listed that ATF+4 shouldn't apply.
But then later this informaion states something that contradicts above.
NOTE: ATF+4 must always be used in vehicles that were originally filled
with ATF+4.
According to my manual, and everything I was led to believe and that my
vehicles came with ATF+4, so ATF+4 must be used.
Very confusing info. Doesn't make much a lot of sense.
ATF+4 is cheaper than a rebuild.
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Joe Levy wrote:
>
> Check this out - it's the YSB that references ATF+4.
> Note - some vehicles/transmissions are omitted from thechangeover.
> http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2004/21-004-04.htm
>
> Joe
>
> Pindell, Tim wrote:
>> Thanks fellas. I've got three older boxes that use the +3: a '98 41TE,
>> a '94 46RH and an '86 A-525. I guess I'm OK to use what I've got of the
>> +3 and re-fill with +4 when the time comes. I had a small concern
>> regarding compatibility and availability which now appears to be a
>> non-issue.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net [mailto:owner-dakota-
>>> truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Rick Barnes
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:55 AM
>>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Valvoline ATF+4 at Autozone.
>>>
>>>
>>> Atf+4 is better stuff, handles heat much better. If your tranny calls
>>
>> for
>>
>>> it, use it or you may well be buying a new tranny
>>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net [mailto:owner-dakota-
>>> truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Ray Block
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:19 PM
>>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>> Subject: DML: RE: RE: Valvoline ATF+4 at Autozone.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Tim, the latest issue of MOPAR magazine has a big article on ATF+4.
>>>
>>> I quote..."While ATF+4 is used in late model vehicles built since 2001,
>>> there are many applications prior to this date in which ATF+4 can be
>>
>> used.
>>
>>> Remember, ATF+4 must always be used in vehicles that were originally
>>
>> filled
>>
>>> with ATF+4."
>>>
>>> Basically they said ATF+4 is compatible with ATF+, ATF+2 and ATF+3.
>>> Outside
>>> of vehicles that came with ATF+4, you can still use the earlier
>>
>> products
>>
>>> (if
>>> you can find them). Mopar just feels the +4 is better.
>>>
>>> For instance, my 2000 Grand Cherokee came with ATF+3 and a Mopar Tech
>>> friend
>>> told me it would be fine to continue using 3 in it when I changed the
>>
>> fluid
>>
>>> and filters. If I wanted to spend the extra $ I could switch to 4.
>>
>> My
>>
>>> choice....and I have to say there have been no problems racing or
>>
>> towing
>>
>>> with this Jeep with ATF+3. But, that is what it came with.
>>>
>>> Just saw another message from you Tim...yes, ATF+4 *was* only available
>>> from
>>> the dealer.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Pindell, Tim
>>>>
>>>> A local Advance Auto had the last of the ATF+3 for $1.50/quart. I
>>>> bought them all. The +4 in the same store was $4.98/quart! I'm going
>>
>> to
>>
>>>> have to look into why the +3 was superseded. Anybody have a linky or
>>>> two for the whole story?
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>
>>
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