Agreed, but if you read the paragraph immediately preceding, it details
the transmissions that are excluded (only a few). The long list is OK
for ATF+4.
Joe
moliver@mmoliver.org wrote:
> )
> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:49:46 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Miles D. Oliver" <moliver@mmoliver.org>
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> cc: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: RE: RE: Valvoline ATF+4 at Autozone.
> In-Reply-To: <dvussv$i5t$1@bent.twistedbits.net>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603231537490.30798@kota.mmoliver.org>
> References: <068A96B9268C9241AE4253B6B2655A1608A686@ocexchange2003.otterbein.edu>
> <dvussv$i5t$1@bent.twistedbits.net>
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>
> This is a very confusing page.
>
> 1989 - 2004 (AN) Dakota
> 1998 - 2003 (DN) Durango
>
> A new transmission fluid (ATF+4 - Type 9602) has been developed and is
> being used as factory fill for all vehicles with Chrysler automatic
> transmissions.It is recommended that all vehicles with Chrysler automatic
> transmissions EXCEPT FOR THOSE LISTED ABOVE be serviced with ATF+4.
>
> Both of my vehicles are listed, and if I read this right.
>
> "EXCEPT FOR THOSE LISTED ABOVE be serviced with ATF+4"
>
> Means that since my vehicles are listed that ATF+4 shouldn't apply.
>
> But then later this informaion states something that contradicts above.
>
> NOTE: ATF+4 must always be used in vehicles that were originally filled
> with ATF+4.
>
> According to my manual, and everything I was led to believe and that my
> vehicles came with ATF+4, so ATF+4 must be used.
>
> Very confusing info. Doesn't make much a lot of sense.
>
> ATF+4 is cheaper than a rebuild.
>
>
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Joe Levy wrote:
>
>
>>Check this out - it's the YSB that references ATF+4.
>>Note - some vehicles/transmissions are omitted from thechangeover.
>>http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2004/21-004-04.htm
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>Pindell, Tim wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks fellas. I've got three older boxes that use the +3: a '98 41TE,
>>>a '94 46RH and an '86 A-525. I guess I'm OK to use what I've got of the
>>>+3 and re-fill with +4 when the time comes. I had a small concern
>>>regarding compatibility and availability which now appears to be a
>>>non-issue.
>>>
>>>Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net [mailto:owner-dakota-
>>>>truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Rick Barnes
>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:55 AM
>>>>To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>>Subject: RE: DML: RE: Valvoline ATF+4 at Autozone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Atf+4 is better stuff, handles heat much better. If your tranny calls
>>>
>>>for
>>>
>>>
>>>>it, use it or you may well be buying a new tranny
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net [mailto:owner-dakota-
>>>>truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Ray Block
>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:19 PM
>>>>To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>>Subject: DML: RE: RE: Valvoline ATF+4 at Autozone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hey Tim, the latest issue of MOPAR magazine has a big article on ATF+4.
>>>>
>>>>I quote..."While ATF+4 is used in late model vehicles built since 2001,
>>>>there are many applications prior to this date in which ATF+4 can be
>>>
>>>used.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Remember, ATF+4 must always be used in vehicles that were originally
>>>
>>>filled
>>>
>>>
>>>>with ATF+4."
>>>>
>>>>Basically they said ATF+4 is compatible with ATF+, ATF+2 and ATF+3.
>>>>Outside
>>>>of vehicles that came with ATF+4, you can still use the earlier
>>>
>>>products
>>>
>>>
>>>>(if
>>>>you can find them). Mopar just feels the +4 is better.
>>>>
>>>>For instance, my 2000 Grand Cherokee came with ATF+3 and a Mopar Tech
>>>>friend
>>>>told me it would be fine to continue using 3 in it when I changed the
>>>
>>>fluid
>>>
>>>
>>>>and filters. If I wanted to spend the extra $ I could switch to 4.
>>>
>>>My
>>>
>>>
>>>>choice....and I have to say there have been no problems racing or
>>>
>>>towing
>>>
>>>
>>>>with this Jeep with ATF+3. But, that is what it came with.
>>>>
>>>>Just saw another message from you Tim...yes, ATF+4 *was* only available
>>>>from
>>>>the dealer.
>>>>
>>>>Ray
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Pindell, Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>A local Advance Auto had the last of the ATF+3 for $1.50/quart. I
>>>>>bought them all. The +4 in the same store was $4.98/quart! I'm going
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>have to look into why the +3 was superseded. Anybody have a linky or
>>>>>two for the whole story?
>>>>>
>>>>>Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>.
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