Update:
After a closer look, maybe I don't have a return style system. There are 2
lines that come out from the pump. The larger one goes to the fuel rail and
the smaller one goes the EVAP can lines.
So it looks as though I need the returnless pump. Is the a provision in the
returnless pump for the EVAP line? Because it looked like there was only
one port in the picture.
Thanks,
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Jamie Calder
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 3:21 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: RE: DML: Fuel Problem
I noticed the same thing when searching for pumps. Here's what I found out
from Rock Auto:
1995:
P74675M Returnless $195.00
P74654M W/ Return $157.00
1996:
P74675M Returnless (same as 1995)
BUT..My '96 has 2 fuel lines going from the pump to the fuel rail! I also
thought the return style was stopped in '95. Maybe this was one of the last
of the few '95 chassis used for '96.
So, I guess I should order the '95 P74654M W/ Return and not the one listed
for my year? Cheaper too!
Thanks,
James
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Biff Byrum
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:18 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: Fuel Problem
Yep, that's the number, same thing happened to me just now. No returns when
you do a number search, but when you plug in your truck info, it comes up.
Funny thing is that the 74675 shows for my '95, and for your '96, but others
also show for '96 that are not the same. If you have two lines, it sounds
like they went back to a return system.
If you plug in 1995 Dak, 3.9 lt. you will get that 74675M and you can look
at the picture and see if it's what you have. The prices for your '96 are
$237 up to $449. As far as I remember, we're talking about a grey area here.
Between 1991 and 1998, CC seems to have changed their minds many times about
fuel pumps. You virtually have to pull out what you have to identify it.
That bit about your brake and fuel lines sounds wacky. That's the best job
CC could do to supply such vital parts?? Biff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Calder" <jcalder3@cfl.rr.com>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: DML: Fuel Problem
> Is that part number a NAPA number? It didn't have any results
> searching
the NAPA site.
>
> The Carter pump at Advance Auto is about $250.00. Is that what I
> should
expect to pay at any auto store?
>
> The metal lines are just as rusted and pitted as my front brake lines
> that
blew out on me. There are 2 lines, one smaller then the other. I assume
the smaller one is the return line?
>
> Is there any reason why I cannot replace the metal lines with high
pressure rubber fuel lines rated for fuel injection with fuel injection
style hose clamps?
>
> If I were to replace them with metal lines, the ends need to be formed
> to
accept the quick connects, right. Or cut the ends off and compression
couple them to the new lines? And a lot of bending involved again. Seems as
though rubber would be much easier, and wont rust out again.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Biff
> Byrum
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 2:52 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: Fuel Problem
>
>
> Grady, thank you, that's the way it is. Jamie, the part number is
NFP74675M, you can look that up in the online catalog and see what it looks
like. The dark thing on the bottom is the filter, which they call a
strainer. The photo is taken without the sending unit attached. It should be
up halfway in that photo.
>
> I know what I said sounds really stupid, but maybe it's not even DC's
fault. The pump is a Carter item, maybe it's made for them exclusively, and
they only distribute them to the dealers. I think they make the damn thing
to last the life of the pump, given that you never get any contaminants
(solids) in a fill-up. Or that the pump assembly is always fitted tightly to
the tank opening. I thought I did it right back in '04, but when I changed
it again in March, it was not. And the person helping me was with me when I
did it in 04 and even he said he thought I screwed it down tight back then.
>
> Lesson to all: When you're doing a pump on a GenII or III, use
> toothbrush
and clean rags and do a good lob on the threads on the top of the tank
opening, AND the screw collar. Dirt in those threads really fakes you out as
to when it's really sealed. Biff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie Calder" <jcalder3@cfl.rr.com>
> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 7:38 AM
> Subject: RE: DML: Fuel Problem
>
> > On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 09:33:13 -0400, jcalder3@cfl.rr.com said...
> > >
> > > Biff,
> > >
> > > You stated that a NAPA pump comes with a filter and sending unit.
> > > Then
you said there is no aftermarket filter, Stealer only. Are these 2
different parts you're talking about? Thanks for clarifying.
> > I think he means you can't buy the filter separately, except from
> > the
dealer. If you go with the NAPA pump, you get the filter with it.
> >
> > Grady Ogburn (Pgh, AIM: JGradyO)
> > Black '98 Sport CC 4x4 5.2l, 5 Speed, 3.55 LSD K&N GenII, MP TB, JET
> > II,
MSD 6A, Magnecor 8.5 Wires Mesa Headers & Cat, Gibson/MagnaFlow 3" Exhaust
Leer Topper
> >
> > Oh... I see. I need more coffee...
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