RE: RE: Auto Tranny Shifting problems

From: Rick Barnes (rascal@scrtc.com)
Date: Thu Jun 28 2007 - 01:13:02 EDT


Bernd always has a way with words...awesome and thanks

Rascal

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Bernd D.
Ratsch
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:05 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Auto Tranny Shifting problems

THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 21-004-04, DATED
MARCH 16, 2004, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. THIS IS A
COMPLETE REVISION AND NO ASTERISKS HAVE BEEN USED TO HIGHLIGHT
REVISIONS.
SUBJECT:
Automatic Transmission Fluid Usage ATF+4 (Type MS9602)
MODELS:
1989 - 1995 (AA) Spirit/Acclaim/Lebaron Sedan
1989 - 2003 (AB) Ram Van/Wagon
1989 - 1993 (AC) Dynasty/New Yorker/New Yorker Salon
1989 - 1993 (AD) Ram Truck
1989 - 1994 (AG) Daytona
1989 (AH) Lancer/Lebaron GTS
1989 - 1995 (AJ) Lebaron Coupe/Lebaron Convertible
1989 - 1990 (AK) Aries/Reliant
1989 - 1990 (AL) Horizon/Omni
1989 (AM) Diplomat/Gran Fury/New Yorker fifth Avenue
1989 - 2004 (AN) Dakota
1989 - 1994 (AP) Shadow/Sundance
1990 - 1991 (AQ) Maserati
1990 - 1993 (AY) Imperial/New Yorker Fifth Avenue
1994 - 2003 (BR/BE) Ram Truck
2004 - 2007 (CS) Pacifica
1998 - 2003 (DN) Durango
2002 - 2007 (DR/DH/D1) Ram Truck
2007 (DC) Ram 3500 Cab Chassis
1995 - 2000 (FJ) Sebring/Avenger/Talon
1996 - 2000 (GS) Chrysler Voyager (International Market)
2004 - 2007 (HB) Durango
NUMBER: 21-010-06
GROUP: Transmission
DATE: April 14, 2006
1995 - 2000 (JA) Cirrus/Stratus/Breeze
2007 (JK) Wrangler
2001- 2006 (JR) Sebring Sedan & Convertible/Stratus Sedan
2007 (JS) Avenger/Sebring
1996 - 2000 (JX) Sebring Convertible
2002 - 2007 (KJ) Liberty
1993 - 2004 (LH) Concorde/Intrepid/Vision/LHS/New Yorker
/300M
2005 - 2007 (LX/LE) 300/Magnum/Charger
1996 - 2000 (NS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager
1995 - 2005 (PL) Neon
2002 - 2003 (PG) PT Cruiser (International Markets)
2001 - 2007 (PT) PT Cruiser
1997 - 2002 (PR) Prowler
2001 - 2007 (RG) Chrysler Voyager (International Markets)
2001 - 2007 (RS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager
1997 - 2006 (TJ) Wrangler
2001 - 2004 (WG) Grand Cherokee (International Markets)
Vehicles equipped with Gas engines
1999 - 2004 (WJ) Grand Cherokee
2005 - 2007 (WK/WH) Grand Cherokee
2006 - 2007 (XK/XH) Commander
1989 - 1995 (YJ) Wrangler
1996 - 1998 (ZG) Grand Cherokee (International Markets)
1994 - 1998 (ZJ) Grand Cherokee/Grand Wagoneer
NOTE: This Service Bulletin DOES NOT apply to AW-4 transmissions, Sprinter
transmissions, Crossfire transmissions, MK/PM vehicles equipped with
Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) and WG vehicles equipped with a
diesel engine (sales code ENF) and a W5J400 or NAG1 transmission (sales
code DGJ).
DISCUSSION:
ATF+4R - (Type 9602) is being used as factory fill for Chrysler Group
automatic
transmissions. ATF+4R is recommended for all vehicles equipped with Chrysler
Group automatic transmissions EXCEPT FOR THOSE NOTED ABOVE.
NOTE: ATF+4R must always be used in vehicles that were originally filled
with
ATF+4R. DO NOT USE ANY OTHER FLUID.
21-010-06 -2-
NOTE: ATF+4R is backward compatible with ATF+3 , ATF+2, and ATF+.
Additionally,
ATF+4 can be used to top off vehicles that used ATF+3, ATF+2, or ATF+.
NOTE: If ATF+4R is used to service models originally filled with ATF+3 ,
ATF+2, and
ATF+ the fluid maintenance schedules listed for that model does not change.
The service interval currently in effect for a given model should continue
to
be followed. Refer to the Service or Owners manual for maintenance
schedule directions.
In general terms, If ATF+, ATF+2 or ATF+3 was the recommended fluid, it is
now
recommended to use ATF+4.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Schultz [mailto:d.schultz@sympatico_NOSPAM_.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:28 PM
To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
Subject: Re: DML: RE: Auto Tranny Shifting problems

Hmmm...my Chrysler Dakota service manual indicates ATF+3, type 7176 fluid
for
the 44RE transmission right here on page 21-80.
As I indicated in a previous post, I have no history on the fluid changes in
its
past life.
As I look at the invoice it states a "Transmission Tune up" was done.
There's
no indication that anything out of the ordinary was found when the filter
was
changed. This dealer usually will tell me what they find during their
inspections and other work if it is of concern.
Thanks.

Bernd D. Ratsch wrote:
> Yup...wrong fluid - ATF+4 is backwards compatible though and 5qts in a
16qt
> system isn't going to cause that big of a problem at all.



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