I'd have to dig around in my old invoices to find the P/N#....but I'm using
the Cloyes dbl-row/roller chain (Hardened gear set).
- Bernd
-----Original Message-----
From: WiLieR [mailto:waffle787@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:19 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: RE: It's water pump time!
Which dbl roller is recommended? Cloyes lists three or four different
syle dbl rollers for the 3.9/5.2/5.9.
WiLieR
On 1/20/08, Bernd D. Ratsch <bernd@dodgetrucks.org> wrote:
>
> With the dbl-rollers, it's really not required...but definitely helps keep
> things in time properly. Even the dbl-rollers will stretch - seen that at
> 60K miles on my V6 with the high-end Cloyes chain (and on several others
> with various dbl-roller chains). Do the chains stretch as much as the
stock
> chains....nope. So it's your call if you want to spend the extra $$$ or
> not.
>
> - Bernd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Johnson [mailto:sixpackdak@execulink.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:24 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: It's water pump time!
>
>
> Thanks for straightening me out Bernd. :)
>
> Do you recommend using the tensioner as an upgrade when I change the
chain?
> I normally use a performance double-roller chain set when I change them,
so
> I don't know if it would really be required.
>
> James
>
> At 05:26 PM 1/20/2008 -0600, you wrote:
>
> >No they didn't. That's an update to the newer engines. It's all the
same
> >part though - the V6 tensioner works on the 3.9/5.2/5.9L from Mid '91 to
> 2004.
> >
> >- Bernd
> >
> >James Johnson wrote:
> >>
> >>I was thinking the same thing about the timing chain, I did the one in
my
> >>last Dakota at just over 100k miles and the one in my Mirada at about
> >>150k. But it is way too cold to work outside right now. Now that I've
> >>gotten the water pump apart off, I have found that on this truck it's
> >>easier to get at everything because of the cast aluminum accessory
> >>brackets, it all comes off as a module. So once the weather gets a
little
> >>nicer I will pull it apart again and do the timing chain.
> >>
> >>One question that I do have about the timing chain though, did the 92
> >>V8's come with the timing chain tensioner? I know the later V-6 engines
> >>got them.
> >>
> >>James
> >>
> >>
> >>At 05:02 PM 1/20/2008 -0600, you wrote:
> >>
> >>>At 186K miles...i'd be seriously worried about the timing chain.
> >>>I've changed them at 100K and it's not a pretty sight - lots of slack
> >>>and a lack of performance due to cam timing "flutter".
> >>>
> >>>- Bernd
> >>>
> >>>Dan Kramarsky wrote:
> >>>>James,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Why? Why mess with the timing chain at all? Is it causing any
> >>>>problems? You only have
> >>>>186,400 miles on the truck. Unless the timing chain is a problem.
> >>>>I wouldn't touch it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>I just did my water pump in my '92 Dak 5.2L with A/C. And at the same
> >>>>time I put on the
> >>>>March Performance under-drive pulley set #10515. To do this job I
> >>>>purchase the
> >>>>following parts. But keep in mind the water pump I needed was the
> >>>>older kind that has no
> >>>>pulley, just 4 threaded holes to where the pulley is bolted on.
> >>>>This is because the new
> >>>>March water pump pulley needs to be bolted on. Note: These old-style
> >>>>water pumps can be
> >>>>hard to find because the new-style pumps have the pulley pressed fit
> >>>>on. ( it wont come
> >>>>off )
> >>>>
> >>>>Parts Required:
> >>>>---------------
> >>>>
> >>>>Water Pump
> >>>>A-1 CARDONE Part # 58447 {[Water Pump] Remanuf.}
> >>>>Bolt on Pulley w/Threaded Heater Port Standard Pump $37.89
> >>>>
> >>>>Water Pump Gasket
> >>>>FEL-PRO Part # 35540 $1.24
> >>>>
> >>>>Tensioner Pulley
> >>>>GATES Part # 38016 {Belt Drive Pulley Thermoplastic V-Ribbed 7 Grooved
> >>>>(76mm x 17mm x
> >>>>32mm)} $15.19
> >>>>
> >>>>Idler Pulley
> >>>>GATES Part # 38033 {Belt Drive Pulley Steel Smooth (90mm x 17mm x
> >>>>33mm)} $19.67
> >>>>
> >>>>Serpentine Belt
> >>>>Gates Part #K060962 {Automotive V-Ribbed Belt (Standard) 6 Ribs 13/16"
> >>>>x 96 7/8"} $21.79
> >>>>
> >>>>March Performance
> >>>>MARCH Part #10515 {Pulley Set, Serpentine, Aluminum, Clear
> >>>>Powdercoated, set of 3 }
> >>>>$199.50
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Now, I got the Tensioner and the Idler pulleys because mine where
> >>>>fairly worn down. If
> >>>>you havent replaced these in a while, I suggest you do it now.
> >>>>
> >>>>And please keep in mind that the 6-rib is needed because the March
> >>>>pulley set is designed
> >>>>for 6-rib. And yes, as you may have guessed, the power steering
> >>>>pulley, the A/C
> >>>>pulley, and the tensioner pulley are all still 7 ribs right? So how
> >>>>do you install a
> >>>>6-rib belt? Right? Well, if you leave the front-most tooth open on
> >>>>all those pulleys,
> >>>> the belt will line up just perfectly. No problems. I have had
this
> >>>> ruhning for 4
> >>>>months now in my 1992 Dak 5.2L and its flawless.
> >>>>
> >>>>Have fun!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Dan K.
> >>>>
> >>>>Vehicle: 1992 Dakota Club Cab LE Color: Two-tone silver
> >>>>Engine: 5.2L EFI Options: A/C, Cruise, PS, PB, PW, PL, 3.55 gear,
> >>>>46RH, tinted rear slider.
> >>>>Mods: Home-brew CAI, March Performance pulley set, K&N Filters, 180*
> >>>>T-stat, relocated IAT, DynoMax Super Turbo Exhaust Kit, Hi-Flow Cat,
> >>>>Autolite plugs & wires, Gates hoses & belts.
> >>>>Photo: http://static.flickr.com/42/84856795_c18903d10f.jpg
> >>>>Whats Next: Mopar Performance PCM, 3.91 rear gear with LSD,
> >>>>electric fan, KYB shocks, re-paint body, 2/4 drop kit.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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