So, while the ricer is playing limbo under the deer, the Harley/(standard?),
rider is sitting upright, seemingly without the protection of that 1 mm
piece of plastic fairing...interesting concept, but unfortunately a lot of
crap. Hitting a deer on either is running into a slab of beef, but gimmee
the Harley anytime cause the bike has more ability to absorb energy because
it has greater mass. Allow me to offer that once, as a Miami Florida Police
Department mechanic, I got a call in the middle of the night to go to an
accident scene. I was on shift. I got in our City truck and headed for the
scene. Once there, I witnessed the Parameds loading our cop into the
ambulance, broken leg and arm. He has broadsided a Honda that had run a
stop sign. The driver, a 17 year old girl was dead, even though she was hit
on the passenger side. Pretty grisly scene to say the least. The Honda was
nearly cut in half.
The Miami, Florida PD have ridden Harleys from 1950 to today and since that
time, have had not ONE officer die in an accident. However, three have been
shot to death while on their bikes. The North Miami Beach PD, traded their
HDs for sporty Kawasaki's in 1982. They only had a fleet of ten bikes. The
Miami PD had over 50. In three years, the North Miami PD lost three
officers in accidents. They had those cute little fairings too...not
exactly a safety item, trust me.
The graveyards are full of ricers that died on those cute little rockets.
Please, don't tell me how a ricer is supposedly safer than a bike built of
iron. I would rather be in a Dodge than Honda, or ride a Harley than a
Yamaha if I were in an accident. I grew up around bikes starting at age 8.
Just my experience, of course yours might be different. Of course Hilary
says she isn't a Marxist too...hmmm...
Rascalo
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Barry Oliver
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:53 AM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: Deer hit!
Ok, maybe slide under them is the wrong description, but the typical
riding position on a sportbike, while speeding, is crouched down behind
the fairing. Typical Standard and Harley riding position is sitting
straight up or leaning slightly forward. The sportbike rider has more
theoretical protection [such as it is with thin plastic] than a rider
sitting straight up, sometimes without even a windshield. That's just
my experience, I have seen 2 sportbike deerstrikes, and 2
cruiser/standard strikes. Both of the sportbike strikes mangled plastic
but didn't touch the rider [except a knee]. The standard was a ST1100
that just plowed into mrs. deer almost like the story I posted [only
with more damage and less gunfire]. The cruiser strike was actually a
Honda VTX. Apparently the rider got almost stopped, and the deer ended
up breaking the windshield and in the rider's lap, taking him off the
back of the bike...
Rick Barnes wrote:
> Slide under them? Harleys and ricers ride at the same height, headlight
> heights are mandated by law.
>
> Rascal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Barry Oliver
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:44 AM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: Deer hit!
>
>
> Rick Barnes wrote:
>
>>I agree Barry. That has to be one of the great works of fiction I have
>
> ever
>
>>read. I was riding a Harley once and hit a german Shepard that stepped
>
> out
>
>>in front of me and I was only doing about 50. I went right over him but
>>though I kept the bike upright, I wound up planting it into the side of a
>>parked car in a residential driveway and I went right over the car.
>
> Killed
>
>>the dog and ruined my day. Total BS that some guy cut a deer in half
>
> doing
>
>>150 on a ricer.....yeah sure.
>>
>>Rascal
>
>
>
> Deer are worse for harleys and standards - you tent to catch them in the
> chest. On a sportbike, you have a chance to slide under them.
>
> As far as the speed, I haven't ever seen a sportbike of any make or
> model that had a 100% accurate speedo. None. Most are 10% or more
> optimistic, a detail that is much more apparent at higher speeds. Alot
> of guys, when referring to their tickets, will say something like "I was
> going almost 100 but he only clocked me at 85" not even realizing that
> it was the Cop's radar that was right not the goober's speedo...
>
>
>
>
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