Re: M1

From: Jamie Calder (JCalder3@cfl.rr.com)
Date: Mon Jun 02 2008 - 18:18:56 EDT


Thanks Bernd and Jon. Here's some Summit pricing to go by:
2bbl $582
4bbl $354
4 bbl $228 cheaper!
There's cheaper prices elsewhere but all have over a $200 difference.
Depending on how the engine is looked at, do I need the P5007790 right
linkage or P5007791 left linkage?
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From: <jon@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 5:53 PM
To: <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
Subject: Re: DML: M1

>
> "Jamie Calder" <JCalder3@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> Any suggestions on which M1 for a NA 408? 2bbl or 4bbl? The 4 bbl seems
>> to
>> be about $200 cheaper but I'd get which ever has better performance.
>> I've
>> heard that a 4bbl looses to much low end but that's not the case with a
>> 408...
>
>
> Ouch! $200 *cheaper*? Only a few years ago (ok, maybe several),
> the entire manifold was $200! :-(
>
> I don't know if this will help you out or not, there is some
> limited dyno information on the 4bbl here:
>
> http://www.steigerperformance.com/benefits/dyno
>
> The comparison graphs are from DMLer Bob Tom's '97 318. On that
> particular truck, the 4bbl actually made more low end torque than the
> stocker (though there was a hole in the 3500-4000rpm range; I'm not
> sure if that is a 4bbl characteristic or just that particular truck).
> When you were referencing low end losses, I'm not sure if you were
> comparing the 4bbl to stock or the 4bbl to the 2bbl; the 2bbl may very
> well make more low end than the 4bbl, unfortunately I don't know for
> sure since I have not seen any dyno comparisons.
>
> Regarding the low end, if you are able to determine that one or
> the other makes less power in that range, that may not necessarily be
> the end of the discussion, depending on your intended use for the
> vehicle. In a truck, where you have a terrible front/rear weight
> bias, an engine with a soft bottom end may not be such a bad thing; it
> may give you an opportunity to get hooked up before all the ponies come
> on-line without having to put a lot of money into the suspension setup.
>
> Anyhoo, just thought I'd chime in in case any of that is useful to
> you. Whichever manifold you end up with, they are both excellent, and
> either would be a nice improvement over the stocker.
>
> --
> -Jon-
>
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