Don R. writes:
>>With the brakes on my Dak feeling spongy (quick bleed job last time),
I went to bleed them again. Last time, which was ~6 months ago, I
replaced the rear wheel cylinders because the bleed nipples broke off.
Well, guess what! The bleed nipples broke off again. ~6 months old.
How does one avoid this with the new cheapazz chinametal? Is teflon
tape a good idea on the bleed nipple threads? Or better yet, any
sources on decent quality wheel cylinders? I got the last ones from
AZ.<<
You do not want to get any foreign matter in the brake system.
I'd suspect that corrosion is the culprit due to seeing that
you hang your hat in Connecticut.. Antiseize would be what
I would try, making sure I kept any from entering the system.
Good luck,
'If we ever forget that we're one nation
under God, then we will be a nation
gone under.' Ronald Reagan
Azie
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:45 PM
Subject: DML Digest V5 #3599
DML Digest Saturday, December 20 2008 Volume 05 : Number 3599
The subjects discussed in this digest are:
==========
DML: Re: Tap tap
Re: DML: Re: tap tap.
Re: DML: Re: tap tap.
Re: DML: RE: tap tap.
Re: DML: RE: tap tap.
DML: Jeep GC tailgate
Re: DML: Jeep GC tailgate
Re: DML: RE: tap tap.
DML: Dak Wheel Cylinder Woes
DML: RE: Dak Wheel Cylinder Woes
Re: DML: RE: Dak Wheel Cylinder Woes
Re: DML: Dak Wheel Cylinder Woes
Re: DML: Jeep GC tailgate
Re: DML: Jeep GC tailgate
DML: Why we don't own Fords..
Re: DML: Why we don't own Fords..
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:36:58 -0500
From: "DAKSY" <rsmith13@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: DML: Re: Tap tap
Hey, Mr. Steiger...
<> I can relate. Our power went out here today for about 5 seconds;
that was pretty annoying.<>
5 Seconds...PLBBBTH!
<>All the way to the right would be an overcharge, assuming the gauge
was working; wonky voltage regulator maybe or a short in the
alternator preventing the field coil from de-energizing? This was
just a one time thing, I take it? Got to love those intermitent
problems.<>
Actually, it happened 3 fifferent times on the way to work that AM...
At noon I hadda make a bank run & she was deader than dead...
Not even a measley solenoid clickety-click...
Sears is w/i 2 miles of where I work, so I grabbed a Die Hard...
They threw the old one on their battery tester thingie, & the cranking amps
were under 700 - rated for 750...
Prolly still good for a three-year-old battery, but I grabbed a new one
anyway...
Seems to be workin good so far...
I take it "wonky" is a technical electrician-type term for a problem?
Never had an "overcharge" before this in 40 years of drivin...
Bob (DAKSY) Smith
DAKSY2K on AIM
2K SY Dakota Sport +
V-6 4 x 4 5 speed
2K08 HD Softail CrossBones
Satin Black (Not Yellow)
http://home.nycap.rr.com/daksy/
Averill Park, NY
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:38:29 -0500
From: "DAKSY" <rsmith13@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: tap tap.
Hey, Rascal!
<> hey, what is with all that tapping? We are trying to sleep
here.....glug, glug....zzz..zzz..zzz<>
Wake up Dood! It's almost 2009 o'clock!
Bob (DAKSY) Smith
DAKSY2K on AIM
2K SY Dakota Sport +
V-6 4 x 4 5 speed
2K08 HD Softail CrossBones
Satin Black (Not Yellow)
http://home.nycap.rr.com/daksy/
Averill Park, NY
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:46:22 -0500
From: "DAKSY" <rsmith13@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: tap tap.
Hey, Jase...
<> Have you checked your battery connection? I had that once, turned out
to be the quick-disconnect switch I had on the battery.<>
All connections were tight...& greased up too...
Bob (DAKSY) Smith
DAKSY2K on AIM
2K SY Dakota Sport +
V-6 4 x 4 5 speed
2K08 HD Softail CrossBones
Satin Black (Not Yellow)
http://home.nycap.rr.com/daksy/
Averill Park, NY
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:50:23 -0600
From: Barry Oliver <barrysuperhawk@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: DML: RE: tap tap.
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Bernd D. Ratsch wrote:
> Hit it harder...maybe someone else will answer too. ;)
>
> - Bernd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Oliver [mailto:barrysuperhawk@comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:20 AM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: DML: tap tap.
>
>
> Tap, Tap, Tap...is this thing on?
>
> I have had nothing for a week....
>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:51:36 -0600
From: Barry Oliver <barrysuperhawk@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: DML: RE: tap tap.
Gout can send you to the ER? I thought it was just sore feet...
John Dunlap wrote:
> Oh yeah?
>
> I had bout w/gout and an emergency room visit.........that's all folks....
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Bernd D. Ratsch <bernd@dodgetrucks.org>
> wrote:
>
>>Hit it harder...maybe someone else will answer too. ;)
>>
>>- Bernd
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Barry Oliver [mailto:barrysuperhawk@comcast.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:20 AM
>>To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>Subject: DML: tap tap.
>>
>>
>>Tap, Tap, Tap...is this thing on?
>>
>>I have had nothing for a week....
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:08:05 -0500
From: "Don Rey" <radon220@gmail.com>
Subject: DML: Jeep GC tailgate
Since everyone here seems so bored, I'm going to cross-post this question :)
I aquired my Dad's Jeep Grand Cherokee as he had no use for it and I
have the storage. The tailgate requires some special finesse to open.
I've found the best way to open it is to push firmly 6-12" to the
right of the handle, then pull open. If it doesn't work, then curse
and repeat. If your voice becomes hoarse, load through the rear
passenger doors intead.
Any permanent fix known? I've tried but have not figured out where
exactly it's hanging up. I've met two other JGC owners with the same
symptoms (including hoarse voice).
Don in CT
89 Dakota Convertible 318 NV3500 4x4
74 Dart Sport 340
98 JeepGC
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:15:07 -0500
From: "Andy Levy" <andy.levy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DML: Jeep GC tailgate
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 08:08, Don Rey <radon220@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Since everyone here seems so bored, I'm going to cross-post this question
> :)
>
> I aquired my Dad's Jeep Grand Cherokee as he had no use for it and I
> have the storage. The tailgate requires some special finesse to open.
> I've found the best way to open it is to push firmly 6-12" to the
> right of the handle, then pull open. If it doesn't work, then curse
> and repeat. If your voice becomes hoarse, load through the rear
> passenger doors intead.
>
> Any permanent fix known? I've tried but have not figured out where
> exactly it's hanging up. I've met two other JGC owners with the same
> symptoms (including hoarse voice).
Have you pulled the interior panel to check out the mechanism? I know
with my Outback, the tailgate latch/handle will stick in the "open"
position and I have to push it back to the "closed" position with my
fingers. Apparently the mechanism gets corrosion on it & the levers
stick.
I haven't opened mine up yet to check it out.
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:47:14 -0600
From: "John Dunlap" <jsdunlap@roadkill.org>
Subject: Re: DML: RE: tap tap.
Well, actually the gout didn't do it but something I took for
it.....if you ain't had it ...it's a little more than just sore. You
just wanna cut it off, seems like the only lasting relief..;.
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Barry Oliver
<barrysuperhawk@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Gout can send you to the ER? I thought it was just sore feet...
>
> John Dunlap wrote:
>>
>> Oh yeah?
>>
>> I had bout w/gout and an emergency room visit.........that's all
>> folks....
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Bernd D. Ratsch <bernd@dodgetrucks.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hit it harder...maybe someone else will answer too. ;)
>>>
>>> - Bernd
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Barry Oliver [mailto:barrysuperhawk@comcast.net]
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:20 AM
>>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>> Subject: DML: tap tap.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tap, Tap, Tap...is this thing on?
>>>
>>> I have had nothing for a week....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:01:18 -0500
From: "Don Rey" <radon220@gmail.com>
Subject: DML: Dak Wheel Cylinder Woes
With the brakes on my Dak feeling spongy (quick bleed job last time),
I went to bleed them again. Last time, which was ~6 months ago, I
replaced the rear wheel cylinders because the bleed nipples broke off.
Well, guess what! The bleed nipples broke off again. ~6 months old.
How does one avoid this with the new cheapazz chinametal? Is teflon
tape a good idea on the bleed nipple threads? Or better yet, any
sources on decent quality wheel cylinders? I got the last ones from
AZ.
Don in CT
89 Dak Vert 318 NV3500 4x4
74 Dart Sport 340
98 JeepGC
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:10:35 -0600
From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <bernd@dodgetrucks.org>
Subject: DML: RE: Dak Wheel Cylinder Woes
Get the less cheapazz american metal. ;)
No easy way to tell which brand won't do that...depends on the area,
corrosion factor, and quality of the part. Personally, I've never had
problems with NAPA parts.
- - Bernd
- -----Original Message-----
From: Don Rey [mailto:radon220@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:01 AM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: Dak Wheel Cylinder Woes
With the brakes on my Dak feeling spongy (quick bleed job last time), I went
to bleed them again. Last time, which was ~6 months ago, I replaced the rear
wheel cylinders because the bleed nipples broke off.
Well, guess what! The bleed nipples broke off again. ~6 months old.
How does one avoid this with the new cheapazz chinametal? Is teflon tape a
good idea on the bleed nipple threads? Or better yet, any sources on decent
quality wheel cylinders? I got the last ones from AZ.
Don in CT
89 Dak Vert 318 NV3500 4x4
74 Dart Sport 340
98 JeepGC
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:16:15 -0600
From: "John Dunlap" <jsdunlap@roadkill.org>
Subject: Re: DML: RE: Dak Wheel Cylinder Woes
I agree on the NAPA brand, else wise put a little anti_seize on the
threaded parts...
John
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Bernd D. Ratsch <bernd@dodgetrucks.org>
wrote:
>
> Get the less cheapazz american metal. ;)
>
> No easy way to tell which brand won't do that...depends on the area,
> corrosion factor, and quality of the part. Personally, I've never had
> problems with NAPA parts.
>
> - Bernd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Rey [mailto:radon220@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:01 AM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: DML: Dak Wheel Cylinder Woes
>
>
> With the brakes on my Dak feeling spongy (quick bleed job last time), I
> went
> to bleed them again. Last time, which was ~6 months ago, I replaced the
> rear
> wheel cylinders because the bleed nipples broke off.
> Well, guess what! The bleed nipples broke off again. ~6 months old.
> How does one avoid this with the new cheapazz chinametal? Is teflon tape a
> good idea on the bleed nipple threads? Or better yet, any sources on
> decent
> quality wheel cylinders? I got the last ones from AZ.
>
> Don in CT
> 89 Dak Vert 318 NV3500 4x4
> 74 Dart Sport 340
> 98 JeepGC
>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:33:09 +0000 (UTC)
From: jon@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: Dak Wheel Cylinder Woes
"Don Rey" <radon220@gmail.com> wrote:
> With the brakes on my Dak feeling spongy (quick bleed job last time),
> I went to bleed them again. Last time, which was ~6 months ago, I
> replaced the rear wheel cylinders because the bleed nipples broke off.
> Well, guess what! The bleed nipples broke off again. ~6 months old.
> How does one avoid this with the new cheapazz chinametal? Is teflon
> tape a good idea on the bleed nipple threads? Or better yet, any
> sources on decent quality wheel cylinders? I got the last ones from
> AZ.
Ouch! That sucks. :-(
One thing that comes to mind is there may be some sort of galvanic
reaction taking place there; seems like both parts should be steel,
but maybe one has a coating which is creating some sort of reaction.
It might also cheap nipples. If you get another AZ wheel cylinder, it
may be worth chucking the nipple that's on there and replacing it with
a higher quality one?
If 'twere me, I'd check out the existing cylinders (pulling them
out if necessary) to see if the broken nipple can be extracted; if so,
that's save you some money over new ones.
Another thought, since the cylinders usually come as bare metal, it
might be worthwhile to hit 'em with some rattle paint prior to
re-installing, and possibly spread some heavy grease (or vaseline)
around the nipple area to try and prevent moisture and oxygen from
ever reaching the threads.
I have used teflon on my brake bleeders; I think its ok as long as
you are careful to wrap it in such a way that its not likely to break
off bits of it to float around in the brake fluid. If you don't need
the sealing aspects of the tape though, and are just looking to
prevent the sticking, I'd be inclined to use a bit of anti-sieze
instead.
- --
-Jon-
.- Jon Steiger -- jon@dakota-truck.net or jon@jonsteiger.com -.
| '96 Kolb Firefly, '96 Suzuki Intruder, Miscellaneous Mopars |
`-------------------------------- http://www.jonsteiger.com --'
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:29:08 -0800
From: "Dustin Williams" <dustinewilliams@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DML: Jeep GC tailgate
Heck my Dakota tailgate doesn't want to close below freezing a few
hard slams works above 20F a few squirts of wd40 a few years ago fixed
it for a few years probably time for another squirt. As for the GC I'd
check for warping or signs of rubbing. Of course wd40 on the latch
wouldn't hurt.
On 12/19/08, Andy Levy <andy.levy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 08:08, Don Rey <radon220@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Since everyone here seems so bored, I'm going to cross-post this question
>> :)
>>
>> I aquired my Dad's Jeep Grand Cherokee as he had no use for it and I
>> have the storage. The tailgate requires some special finesse to open.
>> I've found the best way to open it is to push firmly 6-12" to the
>> right of the handle, then pull open. If it doesn't work, then curse
>> and repeat. If your voice becomes hoarse, load through the rear
>> passenger doors intead.
>>
>> Any permanent fix known? I've tried but have not figured out where
>> exactly it's hanging up. I've met two other JGC owners with the same
>> symptoms (including hoarse voice).
>
> Have you pulled the interior panel to check out the mechanism? I know
> with my Outback, the tailgate latch/handle will stick in the "open"
> position and I have to push it back to the "closed" position with my
> fingers. Apparently the mechanism gets corrosion on it & the levers
> stick.
>
> I haven't opened mine up yet to check it out.
>
>
- --
Sent from my mobile device
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:47:49 -0600
From: Barry Oliver <barrysuperhawk@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: DML: Jeep GC tailgate
My Dak tailgate doesent close properly and hasn't since I got the truck.
It feels like a door that is only half latched most of the time. I
have adjusted the pins and the locks, oiled the hell out of everything,
cleaned everything, tride teflon, wax, light oil, heavy oil, grease and
spooge to lube it up and nothing works... It is the way it is.
Dustin Williams wrote:
> Heck my Dakota tailgate doesn't want to close below freezing a few
> hard slams works above 20F a few squirts of wd40 a few years ago fixed
> it for a few years probably time for another squirt. As for the GC I'd
> check for warping or signs of rubbing. Of course wd40 on the latch
> wouldn't hurt.
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:37:12 -0600
From: Barry Oliver <barrysuperhawk@comcast.net>
Subject: DML: Why we don't own Fords..
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d90_1229190375
Apparently Tom has a long lost cousin with a Land Rover...
Wait til about 4:30 in.
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:32:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Ray Irons <rayirons@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: DML: Why we don't own Fords..
So much for "Built Ford Tough"
They should've put an old tire in the middle of two chains and hooked one
end to the stuck truck and the other to the tow truck then snatched. The
tire acts as a heavy duty rubber band and provides some stretch for
recovery. DAMHIK!
Ray
- --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Barry Oliver <barrysuperhawk@comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Barry Oliver <barrysuperhawk@comcast.net>
> Subject: DML: Why we don't own Fords..
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 4:37 AM
> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d90_1229190375
> Apparently Tom has a long lost cousin with a Land Rover...
> Wait til about 4:30 in.
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