The only vehicle I have other than the Dakota burns oil, and bad. Not
talking about a car, it's my Yamaha Banshee. Since 2 strokes burn a
fuel/oil mixture they provide an extreme example of the kinds of
deposits and nature of the lubrication of oil. The people that use the
"dino" oil have to mix it around 40:1 and with hard riding will
typically have to rebuild the engine every 5 years or so. My dad and I
are both die hard Schaeffer Synthetic fans. The synthetic costs a lot
more than non-synthetic 2 stroke oil but we mix it at 80:1, so in the
end it's cheaper. Since the gas is cleaner it runs really well with
premium gas and some octane booster as opposed to a 50% racing
fuel/premium gas mixture with Yamalube. The other thing is that with
the synthetics there is a residual lubrication that makes it so you
don't have to warm up the engine as long before riding and letting off
the throttle quickly doesn't damage the engine. My dad's quad is 20
years old and has never needed rebuilt and no body we know that uses
synthetic has ever needed to have their engines rebuilt, of course
that doesn't mean they don't bore them out anyway but when they do the
shops are always shocked by how clean the engines are and how little
wear there is.
All that being said, since my Dakota doesn't burn oil I use the old
fashioned kind.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Matt Beazer
<teseract@enchantedbookstore.com> wrote:
>
>
> It's not a Dakota and not 120k, but on my Neon at 59k I pulled the valve
> covers and the only brown I found was the light tan of the oil puddles:
>
> http://www.turbomopar.com/neon/59khead01_small.jpg
>
> This is on a car that I bought with 33k on it that was always run on
> dino juice oil and switched to 5w30 Mobil 1 as soon as I bought it.
>
> Friend of mine's 2000 4.7L Dakota has the "oil sludge under the oil cap"
> problem. He was running a normal oil/synthetic oil mix to save money.
> He switched to 100% synthetic and the sludge under the cap problem
> disappeared soon after.
>
> I've been tempted to put synthetic oil into my 3.0L Voyager, but it
> leaks/burns enough oil at 195k (though much helped by new valve cover
> gaskets and removing crud from the totally coked up crankcase breather
> port) for me to risk dropping something slipperier into it. ;)
>
> MattB
>
>
> Phillip Batson wrote:
>> All your synthetics are going to cost more than the dino (obviously), but you get better longevity and lubrication for that price.
>>
>> I couldn't tell you if one brand of full synthetic is better than another. Even when you look at Amsoil's webpage and their comparisons, is that little bit of difference between the different synthetics really going to make a huge difference? Probably not.
>>
>> I liken it to buying a 2.8ghz computer (M1)or a 3.0ghz computer(Amsoil). Are you going to notice a *real world* difference between the two? Not likely. So buy what you are comfortable spending.
>>
>> FYI, I have used full synthetic in my 2000 4x4 Dak from the beginning. Engine has over 120k on it now, and still runs like new. Maybe someday, I'll pop the valve covers and check how bad the buildup is, but I'd hazard a guess that its pretty clean.
>>
>>
>> The other thing I found is that if you have been running on dino oil, and switch over to synthetic, you may end up replacing the valve cover gaskets. I had to do this with an old chrysler van I had. Thing started leaking all over the place after I changed over. lol.
>>
>> I think the dual filter would be a great addition as well. It would be interesting to see how much better the test results on that kind of system are vs the standard filter.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: bocd@optonline.net [mailto:bocd@optonline.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:42 PM
>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>> Subject: DML: amsoil rep here?
>>
>>
>> i'm looking for some info on using a synthetic oil in our 05 tru 08 ford
>> desials...
>>
>> anyone know what amsoil product?
>>
>> the extended mileage we can get between changs?
>>
>> is amsiol better than mobil 1 ?
>>
>> thanks
>> bob
>>
>>
>>
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