RE: RE: Is my LSD broke?

From: Bernd D. Ratsch (bernd@dodgetrucks.org)
Date: Mon Mar 30 2009 - 17:15:58 EDT


They are smaller but are designed the same way. I haven't seen too many
8.25" diffs with broken Trac-Lok clips, but it does happen to them as
well...especially in "abusive" conditions (lots of slipping with quick
traction engagement, or excessive track use - burn out box).

Heheheh...on that tool, we have one - it's collecting dust. We made our own
out of a used hub but it's simple to make from flat metal like you said.

Yes, that test is pretty standard and will tell you if it's still working
properly or not. Best thing to do also is to service the diff (remove the
cover) and look at all of the clips.

- Bernd

-----Original Message-----
From: David Gersic [mailto:info@zaccaria-pinball.com]
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:08 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: RE: Is my LSD broke?

On Monday 30 March 2009 01:55 pm, Bernd D. Ratsch wrote:
> You can, however, get the diff to lock by lightly applying the brakes
> while moving.

I'll keep that in mind. I don't know if I'll get another chance to test it
on road. It's in the 50s now, and the snow is almost gone.

> One thing though...if the clips in the clutch pack break (which happens
> quite often on the 9.25" diffs), you'll also get the same symptoms like
you
> are describing.

Thanks. I should have mentioned that I have the 8.25" diff. The FSM drawings

of the Trac Loc for the 8.25" and 9.25" seem to be the same. There's 110K
miles on it, of which I've only put on about the last 15K, so if this is
common, I'm willing to be that it's what I probably have. The clips are what

the FSM has labled as the "retainers"?

Is the torque wrench test [1] in the FSM sufficient to prove that the LSD is

good or bad? Or is disassembly of the rear end to inspect the clutch packs
required? If I have to take it apart, I might as well get the parts and
replace the clutch packs. If the torque wrench test will tell me *if* I have

to rebuild it, that's easy to do.

[1] Trac Loc diagnosis and testing:

The differential can be tested without removing the differential case by
measuring rotating torque. Make sure brakes are not dragging during this
measurement.

(1) Place blocks in front and rear of both front wheels.
(2) Raise one rear wheel until is is completely off the ground.
(3) Engine off, transmission in neutral, and parking brake off.
(4) Remove wheel and bolt Special Tool 6790 to the studs.
(5) Use torque wrench on Special Tool to rotate wheel and read rotating
torque.
(6) If rotating torque is less than 22 N-m (30 ft. lbs.) or more than 271
N-m
(200 ft. lbs.) on either wheel the unit should be serviced.

The Special Tool 6790 looks to be just a plate with some holes in it to fit
three of the wheel studs and providing a center attachment point for a
torque
wrench. Lacking Special Tool 6790 here right now, I can probably make one
out
of some plate or bar stock.



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