Re: Cragar Soft 8 16x8 on '95 4x4

From: Matt Beazer (teseract@moparhowto.com)
Date: Wed May 13 2009 - 05:22:52 EDT


Wow, and my wife thinks I'm picky the way I am. ;) I'm the type who
groans and holds his back every time he thinks of rotating tires, heh.

I'd love to run tires as wide as those, but no way they'd fit my '95.
I'd be happy with a cheap set of used rims like your 15x8's if I could
find any, or even better some of the 16x8's. I'll settle for some black
powder coated steel wheels on my red truck with the black bumpers and
body color front fascia, it'll look decent.

I just don't want to go any narrower than 10.5" tires and I don't want
to go shorter than 31". I'd not complain about some 32x11.5x15 tires,
but no way they'll fit without a lift. My main goal with this truck is
something fun to drive with some power that still has good ground
clearance to blast through 12" of snow if needed (like I needed this
last winter). Your boss having to come pick you up for work in his Jeep
because your Neon is high centered in your driveway is embarrassing. :(

I'm tempted to just get some of these as they're cheap and they have a
4.5" offset:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/Rock-Crawler-Series-97-Black-Monster-Mod-Wheel.aspx?t_c=11&t_s=209&t_pt=100021&t_pl=3369&t_pn=PCW97-5868

But I like the size of the 16" rims... personal preference.

MattB

Barry Oliver wrote:
>
> teseract@moparhowto.com wrote:
>> Anyone ever put the Cragar Soft 8 16x8 wheels on a 92-96 Dakota with a
>> 265/70R16 tire (equivalent of a 31x10.50 tire on a 15" rim)? The
>> previous
>> owner of my Dakota put 31x10.50x15 tires on stock (6" wide) rims and
>> I'd like
>> to not repeat the fun bald-in-the-center tread wear. They have a 5"
>> backspace
>> which worries me as they're 2" wider than stock but the backspacing
>> is only .5"
>> less. I could get the 16x7 with the 4" backspacing but I don't know
>> if I want
>> that skinny a rim either with the 265/70R16 General Grabber 2 I
>> wanted to get.
>>
>> An example would be http://www.summitracing.com and look up part number
>> 3977864P.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> MattB
>>
>>
>
> Running Xtra wide tires on narrow rims means you have to become
> intimately familiar with your tire gauge and rotate ALOT [like every
> 4-5k miles]
>
> I have over 100k miles worth of experience runnning 13" tires on stock
> Dak rims, including over 80K on one set of BFG all-terrains. When I
> did swap the all terrains out, they still had 4/32 of tread but I had
> found a deal on some Mud tires...
> http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/ff153/barrysuperhawk/Dakota/?action=view¤t=idiot.jpg
>
> http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/ff153/barrysuperhawk/Dakota/?action=view¤t=MVC-181S.jpg
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>
> The dance goes a bit like this. With BRAND NEW tires [or at least
> one, mounted, on the front.] and on CLEAN flat concrete, Air the tire
> down to 10 psi and roll it at least one full revolution under full
> truck weight. End the roll with the tire on the edge of a piece of
> file folder paper that is under the tire approxamately 5% of the width
> of the tread. Then slowly air the tire up, stopping at every pound
> until you can pull the paper free from under the tire. Do this 3
> times and average the result to the lowest pound. The number will
> change and most likely will go down. My particular case averaged out
> to 36 PSI, but yours will likely be different. This is your air
> pressure, inscribe it on your door sill.
>
> The theory is you want just enough air in there to barely raise the
> edges of the tread blocks. With my truck, the lift was 3/4 of an inch
> on the front, 1" on the unloaded rear. Yours will be less.
>
> The second part of this dance is rotation. You must learn how fast to
> rotate your tires. With my truck, it was every 3-4k miles.
> Literally. If I left them to 5K they were howling for the last
> thousand, and again for the first thousand. With the BFG's I would
> notice when going down a new, freshly paved or just very flat road
> that my tire noise would increase, rather suddenly, over the course of
> 3-400 miles. The softer the tire, the faster this process, my
> Pro-comps wanted 2500 mile rotations to stay happy. With mud or open
> treads you may need to drape a sheet of copy paper over the tire and
> manually check for feathering, etc...
>
> That is all, the gospel according to Barry, now get ye forth and tire
> that Dak...
>
> [and Y'all thought Josh was the most anal one on the list, heh, heh,heh]
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