Re: Cragar Soft 8 16x8 on '95 4x4

From: Barry Oliver (barrysuperhawk@comcast.net)
Date: Wed May 13 2009 - 16:02:28 EDT


Blame those damn flying pigs [I have been ill], apparently I wrote all
of that in response to the "previous owner" comment, and it never sunk
in that you were wanting other rims...LOL

Matt Beazer wrote:
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> Wow, and my wife thinks I'm picky the way I am. ;) I'm the type who
> groans and holds his back every time he thinks of rotating tires, heh.
>
> I'd love to run tires as wide as those, but no way they'd fit my '95.
> I'd be happy with a cheap set of used rims like your 15x8's if I could
> find any, or even better some of the 16x8's. I'll settle for some black
> powder coated steel wheels on my red truck with the black bumpers and
> body color front fascia, it'll look decent.
> I just don't want to go any narrower than 10.5" tires and I don't want
> to go shorter than 31". I'd not complain about some 32x11.5x15 tires,
> but no way they'll fit without a lift. My main goal with this truck is
> something fun to drive with some power that still has good ground
> clearance to blast through 12" of snow if needed (like I needed this
> last winter). Your boss having to come pick you up for work in his Jeep
> because your Neon is high centered in your driveway is embarrassing. :(
> I'm tempted to just get some of these as they're cheap and they have a
> 4.5" offset:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/Rock-Crawler-Series-97-Black-Monster-Mod-Wheel.aspx?t_c=11&t_s=209&t_pt=100021&t_pl=3369&t_pn=PCW97-5868
>
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> But I like the size of the 16" rims... personal preference.
>
> MattB
>
> Barry Oliver wrote:
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>> teseract@moparhowto.com wrote:
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>>> Anyone ever put the Cragar Soft 8 16x8 wheels on a 92-96 Dakota with a
>>> 265/70R16 tire (equivalent of a 31x10.50 tire on a 15" rim)? The
>>> previous
>>> owner of my Dakota put 31x10.50x15 tires on stock (6" wide) rims and
>>> I'd like
>>> to not repeat the fun bald-in-the-center tread wear. They have a 5"
>>> backspace
>>> which worries me as they're 2" wider than stock but the backspacing
>>> is only .5"
>>> less. I could get the 16x7 with the 4" backspacing but I don't know
>>> if I want
>>> that skinny a rim either with the 265/70R16 General Grabber 2 I
>>> wanted to get.
>>>
>>> An example would be http://www.summitracing.com and look up part number
>>> 3977864P.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> MattB
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Running Xtra wide tires on narrow rims means you have to become
>> intimately familiar with your tire gauge and rotate ALOT [like every
>> 4-5k miles]
>>
>> I have over 100k miles worth of experience runnning 13" tires on stock
>> Dak rims, including over 80K on one set of BFG all-terrains. When I
>> did swap the all terrains out, they still had 4/32 of tread but I had
>> found a deal on some Mud tires...
>> http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/ff153/barrysuperhawk/Dakota/?action=view¤t=idiot.jpg
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>> http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/ff153/barrysuperhawk/Dakota/?action=view¤t=MVC-181S.jpg
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>> The dance goes a bit like this. With BRAND NEW tires [or at least
>> one, mounted, on the front.] and on CLEAN flat concrete, Air the tire
>> down to 10 psi and roll it at least one full revolution under full
>> truck weight. End the roll with the tire on the edge of a piece of
>> file folder paper that is under the tire approxamately 5% of the width
>> of the tread. Then slowly air the tire up, stopping at every pound
>> until you can pull the paper free from under the tire. Do this 3
>> times and average the result to the lowest pound. The number will
>> change and most likely will go down. My particular case averaged out
>> to 36 PSI, but yours will likely be different. This is your air
>> pressure, inscribe it on your door sill.
>>
>> The theory is you want just enough air in there to barely raise the
>> edges of the tread blocks. With my truck, the lift was 3/4 of an inch
>> on the front, 1" on the unloaded rear. Yours will be less.
>>
>> The second part of this dance is rotation. You must learn how fast to
>> rotate your tires. With my truck, it was every 3-4k miles.
>> Literally. If I left them to 5K they were howling for the last
>> thousand, and again for the first thousand. With the BFG's I would
>> notice when going down a new, freshly paved or just very flat road
>> that my tire noise would increase, rather suddenly, over the course of
>> 3-400 miles. The softer the tire, the faster this process, my
>> Pro-comps wanted 2500 mile rotations to stay happy. With mud or open
>> treads you may need to drape a sheet of copy paper over the tire and
>> manually check for feathering, etc...
>>
>> That is all, the gospel according to Barry, now get ye forth and tire
>> that Dak...
>>
>> [and Y'all thought Josh was the most anal one on the list, heh, heh,heh]
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