Hey guys, have a 2004 Dak that keeps spinning the Ram-head center cap off of one of the wheels, every couple of weeks.
All the hardware appears to be intact inside the wheel, and have had the wheel checked and balanced....everything seems ok - but it's still spinning the caps off....I'm on my 5th one in the last few months.
Anyone run into this before?
On Jan 22, 2011, at 11:15 PM, DML Digest wrote:
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> DML Digest Sunday, January 23 2011 Volume 05 : Number 4242
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> The subjects discussed in this digest are:
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> Re: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
> DML: RE: 2nd water pump, 130k
> Re: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
> Re: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
> DML: Water pumps
> Re: DML: Water pumps
> RE: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
> Re: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
> RE: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
> Re: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
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> RE: RE: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
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> RE: RE: RE: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
> Re: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
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> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 01:10:30 -0500
> From: "Jim Zito" <conv442@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
> I've got over 200k on the '03 original pump.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:21:07 -0800
> From: "Dave" <wilkerbeast01@charter.net>
> Subject: DML: RE: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
> Still on the original at 150K (I think), but I am on my 4th clutch. First
> one went 135k, 2nd and 3rd (Crap from Auto Zone, Lifetime warranty) together
> went maybe 10k. Both broke the disk between the splined socket and the disk.
>
>
>
>
> If we cannot afford to take care of Veterans, then we should stop making
> them.
> David C. Wilker Jr.
> USAF (RET)
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Eric
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 7:15 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
>
> Do you guys get just 65k per water pump? I needed a new one at 65k, and
> just now again at 130k.
>
> Both times the pump was wobbling (bad bearing i assume), but it must have a
> really flexible seal because it wasn't leaking.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:32:36 -0800
> From: Eric <huffy340@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
>> Where are you getting the pumps?
>
> The 1st one came from mopar. :)
>
> Don't know where the 2nd one came from, but the shop that did it is
> not a "use cheap parts" kind of shop.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:17:33 -0800
> From: "M.B." <mailinglists@moparhowto.com>
> Subject: Re: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
> It would make me start wondering about serpentine belt tensioners. I
> had to replace my water pump soon after I got the truck because someone
> got cheap when the tensioning mechanism siezed up, and just forced the
> belt tight and left it! The interior of the pump was missing aluminum
> and I ended up having to replace the radiator because it was all gummed
> up with ground up aluminum.
>
> I also had to replace the idler pulley as the bearings were getting
> noisy when it got below freezing outside.
>
> My only recurring problem now is the stupid hose clamp on the lower rad
> hose to water pump slowly working loose over time. I re-tighten it and
> I'm good for another 6 months... and the leaky valve covers I keep
> putting off fixing.
>
> M.B.
>
> On 1/22/2011 9:32 AM, Eric wrote:
>>> Where are you getting the pumps?
>> The 1st one came from mopar. :)
>>
>> Don't know where the 2nd one came from, but the shop that did it is
>> not a "use cheap parts" kind of shop.
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:09:05 -0600
> From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11@mchsi.com>
> Subject: DML: Water pumps
>
> Eric writes: >>Do you guys get just 65k per water pump?
> I needed a new one at 65k, and just now again at 130k. <<
>
> And Robert writes:: >> You're doing better than I did.
> 3rd one at 160K... <<
>
> What are you guys doing?? I have an '89 3.9L V6
> that has over 300K on it & has the same water pump.
> No leaks & no wobbles. I also have a '95 V8 that had
> over 300K on it when I let it overheat(Toasted) &
> cracked the heads. I rebuilt a 360(Junkyard core) &
> put in it & installed a new water pump @ that time.
> The one with the cracked heads still had the original
> waterpump & it wasn't bad I just installed a new one
> because of the risk of transplanting the old one...
>
> Sorry about your experiences!!!
>
>
> Diapers & politians need to be changed often
> AND for the same reason
>
> Azie
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:57:30 -0600
> From: John Dunlap <jsdunlap@roadkill.org>
> Subject: Re: DML: Water pumps
>
> Make sure if you have any major aluminum compoments that your
> anti-freeze it designed for it...your pump may be picking up scaling
> from inside your block and fouling it . . .
>
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Azie L. Magnusson <maggie11@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>
>> Eric writes: >>Do you guys get just 65k per water pump?
>> I needed a new one at 65k, and just now again at 130k. <<
>>
>> And Robert writes:: >> You're doing better than I did.
>> 3rd one at 160K... <<
>>
>> What are you guys doing?? I have an '89 3.9L V6
>> that has over 300K on it & has the same water pump.
>> No leaks & no wobbles. I also have a '95 V8 that had
>> over 300K on it when I let it overheat(Toasted) &
>> cracked the heads. I rebuilt a 360(Junkyard core) &
>> put in it & installed a new water pump @ that time.
>> The one with the cracked heads still had the original
>> waterpump & it wasn't bad I just installed a new one
>> because of the risk of transplanting the old one...
>>
>> Sorry about your experiences!!!
>>
>>
>> Diapers & politians need to be changed often
>> AND for the same reason
>>
>> Azie
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:05:35 -0500
> From: "Ray Block" <BPracing@wowway.com>
> Subject: RE: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: M.B.
>>
>> snip <
>>
>> My only recurring problem now is the stupid hose clamp on the lower rad
>> hose to water pump slowly working loose over time. I re-tighten it and
>> I'm good for another 6 months... and the leaky valve covers I keep
>> putting off fixing.
>>
>> M.B.
>
> I understand you bought this truck used so you may not have had any choice
> over the clamps and valve cover gaskets you're dealing with.
>
> For those who do have a choice, you should know that the original factory
> hose clamps and valve cover gaskets (magnum) are reusable and will last the
> life of the truck if not abused.
>
> Ray
> http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:11:53 -0800
> From: "M.B." <mailinglists@moparhowto.com>
> Subject: Re: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
> It had some old crudded up claps on it when I got it. I've had issues
> with more than one "cut to fit" lower rad hose that didn't quite "cut to
> fit" properly too. And the casting on the water pump has a casting
> ridge on the rear of where the lower rad hose hooks up.
>
> Some day I'll be draining the antifreeze, get some sandpaper and sand
> the casting ridge smooth and replace the hose clamp with something not
> from Napa. Until then I just keep a few extensions, a cheap ratchet and
> an 8mm socket in the truck just in case. :)
>
>
> On 1/22/2011 1:05 PM, Ray Block wrote:
>> I understand you bought this truck used so you may not have had any choice
>> over the clamps and valve cover gaskets you're dealing with.
>>
>> For those who do have a choice, you should know that the original factory
>> hose clamps and valve cover gaskets (magnum) are reusable and will last the
>> life of the truck if not abused.
>>
>> Ray
>> http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:35:34 -0500
> From: "Ray Block" <BPracing@wowway.com>
> Subject: RE: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: M.B.
>>
>>
>> It had some old crudded up claps on it when I got it. I've had issues
>> with more than one "cut to fit" lower rad hose that didn't quite "cut to
>> fit" properly too.
>> snip <
>
> Interesting, because I tried to find a new lower radiator hose for my 5.2
> and none, I repeat, none, from any auto parts store (any!) were formed to
> fit the way the original was and none included the internal wire (spring?)
> of the original. I found that all aftermarket brands of lower radiator
> hoses were identical! I finally gave up and bought one from my friendly
> Dodge dealer. Fit perfectly AND came with the internal wire. Had it not,
> I would have cleaned and reused the original wire/spring.
>
> Ray
> http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:42:05 -0800
> From: "M.B." <mailinglists@moparhowto.com>
> Subject: Re: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
> Must have been a while ago, as none of the local dealerships had the
> factory one anymore, too much "aftermarket support". All the
> aftermarket ones are designed to be "universal" to the Dakota AND the
> Ram, so you end up playing the "how much do I trim off?" game and
> inevitably I lose. ;)
>
> And no, none of them have springs anymore, they're supposed to be "stiff
> enough" to not collapse under suction now without the spring.
>
> A lot of people use universal flex hose but with my luck I'd order the
> wrong diameter or length of that too.
>
> M.B.
>
>
> On 1/22/2011 1:35 PM, Ray Block wrote:
>>
>> Interesting, because I tried to find a new lower radiator hose for my 5.2
>> and none, I repeat, none, from any auto parts store (any!) were formed to
>> fit the way the original was and none included the internal wire (spring?)
>> of the original. I found that all aftermarket brands of lower radiator
>> hoses were identical! I finally gave up and bought one from my friendly
>> Dodge dealer. Fit perfectly AND came with the internal wire. Had it not,
>> I would have cleaned and reused the original wire/spring.
>>
>> Ray
>> http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:07:53 -0500
> From: "Ray Block" <BPracing@wowway.com>
> Subject: RE: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: M.B.
>>
>> Must have been a while ago, as none of the local dealerships had the
>> factory one anymore, too much "aftermarket support". All the
>> aftermarket ones are designed to be "universal" to the Dakota AND the
>> Ram, so you end up playing the "how much do I trim off?" game and
>> inevitably I lose. ;)
>>
>> And no, none of them have springs anymore, they're supposed to be "stiff
>> enough" to not collapse under suction now without the spring.
>> snip <
>> M.B.
>
> True enough...it was several years ago. As for "stiff enough", color me
> skeptical. The ones I tried felt no different than the OEM hose without
> the spring and considering I'm at wide open throttle more often than not, I
> won't take the chance of collapsing a hose. YRMV. Too bad the
> aftermarket seems to cater to the lowest common denominator for quality.
> "Good enough" seems to be the standard and those of us who would pay for
> "better" have to suffer for it.
>
> Ray
> http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html
>
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:33:18 -0600
> From: Josh Battles <cletusjones@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: RE: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
> On Jan 22, 2011 3:37 PM, "Ray Block" <BPracing@wowway.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: M.B.
>>>
>>>
>>> It had some old crudded up claps on it when I got it. I've had issues
>>> with more than one "cut to fit" lower rad hose that didn't quite "cut to
>>> fit" properly too.
>>> snip <
>>
>> Interesting, because I tried to find a new lower radiator hose for my 5.2
>> and none, I repeat, none, from any auto parts store (any!) were formed to
>> fit the way the original was and none included the internal wire (spring?)
>> of the original. I found that all aftermarket brands of lower radiator
>> hoses were identical! I finally gave up and bought one from my friendly
>> Dodge dealer. Fit perfectly AND came with the internal wire. Had it
> not,
>> I would have cleaned and reused the original wire/spring.
>
> I bought a lower radiator hose from napa for my 2k v6 and it was formed
> identical to the oe hose and it had the spring too. Maybe they changed that
> in the past few years?
>
> - - Josh
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:14:19 -0500
> From: "Ray Block" <BPracing@wowway.com>
> Subject: RE: RE: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Josh Battles
>>
>> I bought a lower radiator hose from napa for my 2k v6 and it was formed
>> identical to the oe hose and it had the spring too. Maybe they changed
>> that
>> in the past few years?
>>
>> - Josh
>
> In a way I'm not surprised Josh, except for your napa hose having a spring.
> It was a few years ago that I went looking for a new hose and the first I
> got was from CarQuest. While I could have "made it fit", it had an angle
> in it that just wasn't right for my '92 5.2L. I took my original and the
> CarQuest hose to NAPA, AZ and Advance and all they had matched the CarQuest
> one perfectly. None had springs. I sorta got the feeling the aftermarket
> hoses were made to primarily fit the newer Daks and/or Rams....and perhaps
> both the V6 and V8s. There appeared to be a slight difference from what
> the earlier Daks needed. The one I got from the dealer matched my original
> perfectly. I guess you newer Dak owners have it a little easier than those
> of us with antiques.
>
> Ray
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:01:45 -0600
> From: Josh Battles <cletusjones@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
> On Jan 22, 2011 7:16 PM, "Ray Block" <BPracing@wowway.com> wrote:
>>
>> I guess you newer Dak owners have it a little easier than those
>> of us with antiques.
>
> Sadly I had to part ways with my Dak. Sold it the first week of December
> 2010. I'm driving an E30 BMW now. It's a little rough around the edges but
> the main shell is rust free and it's had a full driveline rebuild within the
> past 20k miles. Aside from having to replace the fusebox it runs great and I
> really like driving it. The Dak was a great truck but this little car gets
> twice the mileage and handles much better. It's also really nice to have
> the power goodies and cruise again.
>
> I've recently discovered the wonderful world of NLA and having to buy simple
> parts off of the internets because they're 3x the price locally if they're
> even available.
>
> Here are some pics if anyone is interested: http://omg-stfu.com/temp/e30
>
> - - Josh
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:24:03 -0500
> From: "Ray Block" <BPracing@wowway.com>
> Subject: RE: RE: RE: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Josh Battles
>>
>> Sadly I had to part ways with my Dak. Sold it the first week of December
>> 2010. I'm driving an E30 BMW now. It's a little rough around the edges
>> but
>> the main shell is rust free and it's had a full driveline rebuild within
>> the
>> past 20k miles. Aside from having to replace the fusebox it runs great and
>
>> I
>> really like driving it. The Dak was a great truck but this little car gets
>
>> twice the mileage and handles much better. It's also really nice to have
>> the power goodies and cruise again.
>>
>> I've recently discovered the wonderful world of NLA and having to buy
>> simple
>> parts off of the internets because they're 3x the price locally if they're
>
>> even available.
>>
>> Here are some pics if anyone is interested: http://omg-stfu.com/temp/e30
>>
>> - Josh
>
> Looks decent, Josh. I've always liked the older BMWs. NLA???
>
> Ray
>
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:46:22 -0600
> From: David Gersic <info@zaccaria-pinball.com>
> Subject: Re: DML: 2nd water pump, 130k
>
> On Saturday 22 January 2011 20:24:03 you wrote:
>> NLA???
>
> No Longer Available.
>
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>
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