On 11/19/2011 11:00 PM, DML Digest wrote:
> DML Digest Sunday, November 20 2011 Volume 05 : Number 4470
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> re: DML: Is my auto trans hosed ?
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> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:04:08 -0800 (PST)
> From: Mike Burgess<mike_burgess@yahoo.com>
> Subject: re: DML: Is my auto trans hosed ?
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> So, it went back this afternoon, I paid difference for the 4 qt of
> +4 vs Dextron III and the shop ate the difference, and did the trans flush with +4. I hope 24 hours and 20 miles, didn't kill the transmission.
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> I hope it's OK . Thanks for the advice and links to Dextron vs +4
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> The next job is the clutch packs in the limited slip. Gotta save up for that on too.
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> Mike
> '98 4x2 318 auto 149K miles
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>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:31:01 -0500
>> From: "Jason Bleazard"<jason.dml@bleazard.net>
>> Subject: Re: DML: Is my auto trans hosed ?
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>> On Fri, November 18, 2011 1:44 am, Mike Burgess wrote:
>>> Went to pick it up,
>>> and they had used Dextron III with a synthetic
>> "booster mystery juice",
>>> that "works just fine like the factory fluid".
>> As others have said, make the shop fix their mistake.
>> Personally, I'd take
>> it to a reputable Chrysler dealer to have the snake oil
>> flushed out and
>> correct fluid put in, and take the bill to the shop that
>> used the wrong
>> fluid, and make a lot of noise and threaten small claims
>> court until they
>> reimburse you for the work done at the Chrysler dealer.
>> That's probably
>> just me... I don't let anyone other than the dealer touch
>> the trans. Yes,
>> dealer service is expensive. ATF+4 is expensive. So is a
>> new transmission.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure the owner's manual specifically states that
>> Dexron fluid
>> should not be used. Having this info in writing from an
>> official source
>> will definitely improve your case. If it's not in the
>> manual, it's at
>> http://www.centerforqa.com
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>> "Only certified ATF+4(R) is recommended for service of
>> Chrysler Group LLC
>> vehicles. The use of automatic transmission fluids other
>> than ATF+4(R),
>> including those claiming to be like ATF+4(R), could result
>> in lower levels
>> of performance, jeopardize transmission life and void
>> warranties."
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>> In case you feel like reading more: http://www.allpar.com/fix/trans.html
>> Search that page for "Dexron" if you want to read about
>> half a dozen
>> warnings against the stuff.
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>> I heard somewhere (and bear with me, I'm not an expert,
>> just relaying what
>> I've heard) that the additives in Dexron actually eat the
>> material
>> Chrysler uses in their transmissions. If that's true, it
>> would mean that
>> there's absolutely no way you could ever add anything to
>> Dexron fluid to
>> make it okay to use in Chrysler vehicles. I see this
>> "multi-vehicle" ATF
>> that's supposed to meet both Dexron and Chrysler specs
>> every time I'm in
>> the parts store, and it makes me so mad I want to pour out
>> all the jugs of
>> that crap on the floor. My theory is that the very
>> existence of this fluid
>> is a major part of the reason why Chrysler transmissions
>> have such a poor
>> reputation... of course they're going to fail if shops keep
>> using fluid
>> that eats them.
>>
>> Ahem. Sorry, rant over. Good luck with this, let us know
>> how it goes.
>>
>> - --
>> Jason Bleazard dontspamjason@bleazard.net
>> Burlington, Ontario
>> '01 Dakota Sport 4x4, 4.7 V8, Auto, Quad Cab, black
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I don't know. If they were stupid enough to put Dextron in it the first
time, I wouldn't trust them. I hope they did the flush and did it
correctly. I probably would have taken it to a dealer, like Jason
Bleazard, and made sure it was done right. Then give them the bill. Good
luck though.
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