Re: Tires -Reply -Reply

From: Jon Steiger (steiger@ait.fredonia.edu)
Date: Fri Apr 04 1997 - 10:39:47 EST


At 08:32 AM 4/4/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Thanks for the info, Jeff. I've got a set of 235/70's on the truck
>now. I imagine the 245/60's would probably be close to them in
>height, don't ya think? I like the height of the truck now, so I
>don't want to change it much. Thanks again.

   BTW: I didn't notice if anyone mentioned this, but here's the
"formula" for tire sizes... It can be used for a bunch of stuff,
such as keeping two different size tires the same height, for
example...

  The first number (i.e. 245) is the width of the tire in millimeters.
  The second number (i.e. 70) is the ratio of sidewall height to tire
  width. This ratio is expressed as a percentage. (70%) So, the sidewall
  height is 70% of the width of the tire) So, to find the height of the
  sidewall, you multiply the two numbers together. (That'll give you the
  height in millimeters)

   To find the height of the tire, take the sidewall height times 2, then
   add the diameter of the wheel.

   To convert those useless millimeters into nice 'merican inches, divide
   by 25.4. (With apologies to all our Canadian members.) ;)

   So the heights of the tires in this example would be:

   235/70:

       (235mm * 70%) = (235mm * .70) = 164.5mm

        164.6mm / 25.4 = 6.476377952756in

        (6.476377952756in * 2) + 15 = 27.95in

   245/60:

       (245mm * 60%) = (245mm * .60) = 147.0mm

        147.0mm / 25.4 = 5.787401574803in

        ( 5.787401574803in * 2) + 15 = 26.57in

   You'd have a difference of 1.38 inches.

  Wether that's a lot or not depends on your point of view, I guess. :)
  
   Keep in mind that any change in the circumference of your tire will
  throw off your speedometer and odometer.

    I think that the formula for circumference is Pi * diameter. (Its
   either that or Pi * r squared, but I think that one is area) Hey,
   its been a while! :)

    Anyway, assuming I'm right about the formula, the circumference of
  a 235/70 tire would be 87.81617260034in, and the circumference of a
  245/60 tire would be 83.4872063454in. So, for every revolution, the
  new 245/60 tire would travel about 4.33 inches less.

  If we assume a speed of 60mph:

   I took 60mph / 60 mins per hour * 5280 feet per mile * 12 inches per feet
   to get 63360 inches per minute. Dividing this by the circumference of
   each tire, we determine the revolutions per minute that tire has to turn
   at to make the truck go 60mph:

    235/70: 721.5071908037 rpm

    245/60: 758.9186747712 rpm

   If we're using the 235/70 as our baseline, we can divide that by 60mph to
   determine the rpm nescessary to sustain 1 mph.

     721.5071908037 / 60 = 12.02511984673 rpm per 1mph

     So, every mile per hour needs about 12.025 rpm. If we divide the
     rpm of the 245/60 tire at 60mph by 12.025 we see that the speedometer
     would actually read 63.1 mph.

   Of course, the Dakota's speedometer is calibrated for a 215/75 tire.
   An rpm of 728.1735685438 will cause a 60mph reading on the speedo.
   Doing the numbers again from a baseline given by the 215/75 we get:

              Indicated speed Actual speed
    215/70: 60 60
    235/70: 60 60.55
    245/60: 60 57.57

    So, it would appear that the 235/70 is a pretty good match with the stock
    tire. That's what I've got on my truck now. I never bothered to go
    through with this calculation though. Looks like those of us who
    picked those tires did a pretty good job! :) I just did a quick
    calculation for a 245/65 tire, and that would read 59.66mph at 60mph.
    (Height of 27.539 in.) That's even better than the 235/70 for accuracy,
    but I have no idea if they make a 245/65.

   Well, that's enough garbage out of me for one post! :) I apologize
 for any mistakes I may have made above. If anyone sees any, I'm sure you
 won't hesitate to let everyone know. :) (please do! Its been a while
 since I've done anything like this.)

                                              -Jon-

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