Re: dakota sure-grip

From: L. J. Morris (ljohn@alltel.net)
Date: Tue Jul 01 1997 - 19:31:00 EDT


Finally, my ISP is working;

For those who care and I guess those who don't, GM always called theirs' a
*POSI* unit, Ford *LS* limited-slip and CC *Sure-Grip* and I guess it just
carried over, even though DANA builds most of the rearends for all three
(now). Although I will have to admit that this Dakota unit seems to be
stronger than the Ferds I have had recently, but I guess that is due to OEM
specs to which each is built.

BTW, somewhere in my '97 literature I saw "Sure-Grip", but my brochure says
limited-slip, the window sticker says Anti-spin, so I guess it all "means"
the same, except for the one in my *Hemi* car, i.e. Dana 60, now that's a
Sure-Grip!!!!!!!!!!

That-aaat's all folks.
===================='97 Dakota SLT+=====================

                           L. John Morris<ljohn@alltel.net>
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> From: Jarrod Pilone <moparman@jet.laker.net>
> To: dakota@ait.fredonia.edu
> Subject: Re: dakota sure-grip
> Date: Tuesday, July 01, 1997 8:20 AM
>
> why do you guys still call it a sure grip?. the old chrysler sure grip is
> no longer in production vehicles, the sure grip is a cone style
> differential, it is far superior to the crap limited slip clutch pack
difs
> used today in dodge trucks. they now call it the "anti-spin"
differential.
>
> Jarrod Pilone moparman@laker.net
> http://falcon.laker.net/moparman
> '97 Dakota CC Sport V8, Flowmaster, FIPK
> '72 Dodge Demon, future 12 second 1/4 mile car
>
>
>
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> > From: Frank Ball <frankb@cougar.sr.hp.com>
> > To: dakota@ait.fredonia.edu
> > Subject: dakota sure-grip
> > Date: Tuesday, July 01, 1997 12:40 AM
> >
> > } Subject: Re: Suregrip not so sure...
> > }
> > } I have a '97 reg cab 4x4 with the "limited slip dif" option code on
the
> > } options sticker of the glove box. If I nail it from a dead stop, then
I
> > } get two strips of rubber. So far so good.
> >
> > You definately have a sure-grip.
> >
> > } get two strips of rubber. So far so good. If I have the truck
cornering
> > } hard (and I mean *really* hard), the inside rear tire comes up, and
> just
> > } spins uselessly with no power getting to the ground at all. After a
> >
> > There is a spec for the preload of the clutch pack in the sure-grip.
> > Lift only one rear wheel off the ground and use a torque wrench to
> > measure how hard it is to turn the wheel that is in the air. Spec is
> > between 30 and 200 ft-lbs. This requires a special tool to locate the
> > torque wrench at the center of the axle, not at a lug nut. You could
> > either fabricate a tool or mathematically calculate the torque at at
the
> > lug nut. This is a very wide specification, 200/30 is almost a torque
> > range of 7 to 1. I haven't measured mine, but it locks up at a touch
of
> > the gas pedal. In town when turning pulling away from a stop sign I
> > have to take it *very* easy to keep from squealling. The more torque
> > that is applied to the rear end the tighter the clutch pack tries to
> > lock the rear wheels together, but if one wheel is in the air then
there
> > is only the preload tension on the clutch. Mine will keep power to
both
> > wheels under very low traction situations like backing up, uphill, in
> > mud.
> >
> > } second or so of being dead in the water (and bouncing off the rev.
> > } limiter a couple of times), the inside tire comes down with a
driveline
> > } wrenching bang/squeal, and things get underway again. Same thing
> happens
> > } if I try to "spin" the truck around under power at more than 10-15
mph
> > } (the unloaded tire seems to get all the power, rather than both tires
> so
> > } I can spin the truck around). Is this the way that suregrip works on
> > } these trucks?? I'm use to a torsen limited slip in my Supra which
works
> > } at any speed and I can easly "spin" the car around with power.
> >
> > I think your problem is keeping the wheels on the ground. I don't
> > normally spin it on dry pavement, but I've had it come loose and start
> > to come around under full throttle in 2nd. I have a 2WD (3" lower than
> > a 4WD) with a Addco rear anti-sway bar. I also have the 2000 pound
rear
> > springs and stiffer front shocks (KYB).
> >
> > Frank Ball 1UR-M frankb@sr.hp.com (707) 794-4168 work

> > Hewlett Packard (707) 794-3038 fax (707) 538-3693 home
> > 1212 Valley House Drive Kawi KDX200, Yamaha XT350 YZF600R Seca 750
> > Rohnert Park CA 94928-4999 '95 Dakota SLT Club Cab V8 5-Speed 2WD

 



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